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Ian Mandalor

18/8/2021 12:15:07

"She (Kamala Harris) will leave office in January of 2023"

Please excuse my confusion, but the next presidential election year is 2024, and if the outcome of that election is as you suggest, she would leave office in January of 2025. Is that correct? Thank you!

Patrick

18/8/2021 12:19:15

The Committee could have made a mistake, or I could have, BUT what I heard was January 2023. We shall know in about 15-18 months, won't we?

Frank link

18/8/2021 18:37:17

Kamala could leave in Jan. 2023, after a special election in November 2022, due to exposed fraud from the 2020 election

Katherine

18/8/2021 19:48:15

Oh my…just think if Pelosi continues as Speaker and Harris leaves in 1/23. Things nightmares are made of 😳

Saint Irene

19/8/2021 10:33:22

@Frank--my thoughts exactly--the audits are digging up fraud on all levels and a special election absolutely must be called for. The timing is perfect for this scenario to play out.

Lorri

18/8/2021 14:22:07

Yes, I thought TC said she would take over from Biden before his presidency ends AND be elected president in the next election.

Oh well, even though things will probably keep progressing negatively with or without her, I wouldn't be sad to see her go.

Patrick

18/8/2021 15:12:40

@ Lorri: I don't think it matters much. Any replacement would simply be another order-taker. Can Donald Trump organize a good enough effort to prevent vote manipulation and "digital voters" (cough, cough....) because if that's achieved, he'll be re-elected. Four years after that, however....

The Committee said Trump would be re-elected, but never laid out the sequence. Trump could go down as the only US president elected three times but serves two terms.

We all know, little of this matters. Bigger things are coming.

Lorri

18/8/2021 17:50:06

@Patrick

Not to contradict TC, but how on earth would Trump get around the HCP's willingness to manipulate votes?

Patrick

18/8/2021 18:15:36

@ Lorri: The evidence denied heard by all courts, will be widely and publicly presented. State lawmakers and election officials will be pressured by campaign activists to replace the old software. Such people will be backed into a corner, such that refusal to adopt the honest and transparent method makes "their cheatin' hearts tell on you [them]" 🎵 They'll be exposed as refusing transparency.

Then, paper ballot counting will be supervised in advance by observers from all parties; Trump campaign officials will recruit Democrats of the Far Left persuasion (not too hard to locate these days) to keep an eye on the Far Right persuasion, vice-versa and both will observe the vote counting. Refusal to allow observers will expose a few more cheatin' hearts. 💔

Only so many officials, managers and workers can be bribed & threatened. The crooked ones, who need nothing other than a strong, opposing candidate who tastes to them like acid on the tongue, will be exposed if they resist too hard.

The HCPs successfully manipulate opinion, the only way to control enough people to change direction of social breezes & winds. This can only extend so far.

hmm

18/8/2021 13:59:23

hmm ...ya highly incompetent...

"Kamala Harris’ role in Afghan fiasco does little to dispel the idea she was a ‘diversity hire’
Eight months in as US vice president and Kamala Harris has two big failures to her name in the border chaos and Afghanistan crisis.

It’s entirely right for people to question whether she deserves to be VP at all.

Merit exists for a reason. There should always be some sort of qualification when it comes to anyone who is picked for a job.

There needs to be something that gives the impression that this particular individual can actually handle what’s in front of them.

When Kamala Harris was announced as Joe Biden’s pick for the vice presidency, there were many people who were worried that she wouldn’t be ready for the job.
Some considered her a ‘diversity hire’ given that she was notably unlikable as a politician, and were worried that she could prove to be more of a burden than a blessing.

Less than one year into Biden’s presidency, and it’s becoming obvious that might well be the case.
Recently, Harris had taken credit for being a great influence on Biden’s disastrous decision to withdraw troops from Afghanistan.

That situation has now become an international embarrassment for the United States, and because she attempted to take the credit, it seems that – in the eyes of many Americans – she’s going to have to take the fall.

It has been reported – from admittedly unnamed sources – that she was screaming “you’re not pinning this s**t on me” inside the White House.
Whether that is true or not, what is clear is that Harris has been reluctant to address the American people about the unfolding fiasco.

Even though she has only been vice president for around eight months, this is her second massive failure in the role.

She was given the responsibility of handling the crisis on the southern border by President Biden, only for the situation to get considerably worse.
There has been no improvement at the border since she was assigned, nor has she visited to assess the situation.

The best she could do was a speech telling illegal immigrants not to come to the US, which is clearly something few have listened to."

However, if you look at the field of Democratic presidential hopefuls for the most recent election cycle,
she was very few people’s first pick for the vice presidency, mostly because of the fact that she had gained a reputation for having a bad attitude (as well as cackling like an inmate at Arkham Asylum every time that she was asked a question that made her uncomfortable).

And this brings about the question of why she was even picked in the first place. In my opinion, Kamala Harris is the perfect example of someone who has been hired because of their skin color, not necessarily because of her qualifications or suitability for the role. Given how much Democrats push for inclusivity and diversity, it’s clear that a politician like Harris checks a lot of boxes. She is both black and Indian, on top of being a woman.

But the problem is that Biden and his team have committed a big mistake by choosing her, because she is proving she is not up to the job. Her inaction and bungling has caused chaos at the southern border, and has now played a role in most probably dooming the entire nation of Afghanistan. "

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/532401-kamala-harris-biden-afghan/

Lorri

18/8/2021 14:28:06

While her racial makeup would have been considered an asset, her willingness to follow the HCP program was an even bigger asset in their eyes as far as I'm concerned.

I mean, they would have have Tulsi Gabbard with an interesting racial mix, but she had too much integrity for them.

Everyone thought Tulsi handed up Kamala's ass on a silver platter in the debates. It seemed like Kamala was toast after Tulsi finished with her. Isn't it just amazing how someone so disliked and publicly humiliated still ended up as VP? She was the one who would play ball with the HCPs.

Lorri

18/8/2021 14:29:45

Typo: "they would have HAD ..."

Patrick

18/8/2021 15:07:51

Absent in the press is any commentary about who voted for BidenHarris because that voter really wanted them. I suspect a large number of voters casting a ballot for "Joey B Fortysicks & Camel Hair" (they're professional politicians, so I nickname them) just did not like "DeeJay Trump" (not a professional politician but why should I be stingy with nicknames? He can have one, too...) and voted to see Trump go. A lot of these voters liked what was happening from January 2017 but would never admit it.

The absence of enthusiasm for either Joey or Camel makes the 81 million votes the American public is told they received, either a mystery or a crooked vote.

For readers outside the USA, nobody votes for VP separately, that was eliminated more than two centuries ago. The USA's vice-president is what the President wants her/him to be. Usually s/he acts as attack or lap dog, or messes with things The White House deems too distracting & relatively unimportant for the President to give time.

The RT article (link above) makes a good case for installation of the current administration, not bona fide elective success.

Until recently (a few years ago) I never thought I'd watch the USA begin to slowly crumble, and even though I & we here know big world changes are coming, it's no less sad to watch American idealism fade into mediocrity. DeeJay Trump was & is America's last gasp, but the tide has turned.

As far as what The Committee has predicted, The Committee does not override free will. Harris will remain silent of Afghanistan, it wasn't her decision to make. She sees no benefit to making a statement. If she says "not me", she looks like a blame avoider who doesn't want responsibility. If she supports the decision, that would be perceived as futile prop-up attempt to support Biden, and it won't help her. She'll just be an empty suit cheerleader who ignores facts.

My suggestion is, ignore her. She's an order taker just like Joey B 46.

alex campbell

18/8/2021 15:34:09

Thank you so much Patrick, TC and Mahatma Gandhi for this wonderful post. It was a great blessing to read. I will do my best to absorb the wisdom therein.

Patrick

18/8/2021 15:52:20

😊

Scott R

20/8/2021 22:04:19

I think that was right on what you said above.The ones responsible are the HCP's, without them she wouldnt be there. We all know shes there to do what they tell her to...she doesnt make any decisions.

Susan

18/8/2021 17:50:20

NZ is currently in another lockdown after a year after our last one. We have some cases in Auckland with the Delta Variant and the cause is unknown at this stage. I hope it won't be a long long down

Patrick

18/8/2021 18:02:29

Kiwis are prison inmates? The warden ordered jailkeepers to enforce this?

Susan

18/8/2021 18:22:40

@ Patrick.. I don't understand your answer. It's a 3 day lockdown so far and NO we are not prison inmates??? I'm not are you???

Patrick

18/8/2021 22:16:27

If not a prison inmate, it's not a lockdown. To say it, means captivity.
Just a handful of cases amongst a population of 5 million and everyone's freedom must be curtailed?

Scott R

20/8/2021 22:07:36

Siusan, do you really think the so called Delta Variant exists?? You say it as if it does therefore you have a reason for a lockdown.

Scott R

20/8/2021 22:09:52

Susan: and, yes, you are prison inmates when the HCP's are succesful in locking down your country for their reasons only, not because of some flu.

Susan

18/8/2021 18:18:11

Regarding Air travel, airlines, I asked this question to the Yeshua collective through Daniel recently and they said, it's a huge industry so they don't see that disappearing but said eventually Earth will find other ways to travel which sounded like to me way way in the future. Air travel is here to stay for ages yet

Patrick

18/8/2021 18:20:22

Not for ages. It went almost bankrupt last year, just like post 11 Sep 2001. All it takes is a spike in fuel cost and wham!

Susan

18/8/2021 18:23:58

I intuitively don't see Air travel going away for ages myself

Gary

20/8/2021 23:43:33

It seems like the airline industry gets bailed out A LOT. As much as the car companies. A spike in fuel costs ain't gunna be enough my friend. Biden/Harris will come to the rescue for a little spike. It's gunna have to be a spike with no drop in prices .... a permanent situation. Like in 10/15 years. When gas prices AINT coming back down.

Scott R

20/8/2021 22:39:40

Also, Susan, my opinion? If you are in a lockdown because your authorities told you to be, Im sorry, but that to me means your an inmate. I believe the Committee said something like that as well...we ALL would be.

Scott R

20/8/2021 22:42:14

And the fact that you dont think you are, is a testament to how they are handling you...

Pierluigi

19/8/2021 01:21:43

Wonderful. Just wonderful.
Gandhi's soul has a laser beam precision ability, to discriminate when you should exert calm firmness, and when you should not.
The description of current state of affairs concerning covid vaccines is straight to the point. How to cope wit it, just as difficoult and easy as He teached in his days. Surely enough, they are still highly effective.
Thank you very much, Gandhi! (Also to his interpreter ;) )

Holy Moly!
The Committee just said that the HCP lost two presidential mandates by Harris in exchange of promptly removing Trump?
This would be said in italian with this saying: "La gatta frettolosa fece i micetti ciechi" (The hasty cat, made blind kittens")
It is something fascinating, seeing entire branches of future just dissolving and others being created, just following a choice.
It made you ask if both paths are just "lived" or "experienced" in a different branch of existence.

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

Patrick

19/8/2021 23:12:31

"El gato apresurado hace gatitos ciegos." I like it....

Yes, The HCPs jumped the gun to remove Trump, for the same reasons they assumed he would not be elected. These "avanzamenti frettolosi" will hasten their demise.

Saint Irene

19/8/2021 11:42:30

Thank you, Patrick--what a treat to hear the insightful perspective of Gandhi and his inspirational parting message. He exemplifies the power of peace and love.

ALSO...regarding the West Coast earthquake, TC tells us the Earth can be influenced by human "ideas, attitudes, and the actions which result from human thinking." And also how humans and Americans "think are especially important regarding the timing" (of the earthquake?)

Patrick, could TC expand on that rather surprising concept?

Patrick

19/8/2021 22:35:49

The Committee has waxed poetic on this topic extensively over the years, i.e. human thought and effects imputed upon the Plant Earth. I could not hope to properly explain it in a post comment.

Linda

19/8/2021 14:15:12

From a post here by Patrick a year ago, in a post entitled:

Moving Forward
The Meaning of The Shift
12 August, 2020

“ Q:Please explain that "control everything" statement.
C:Your natural condition is this; you control literally ―virtually and completely― everything around you. Human incarnation equals the illusion, impression, trick, fantasy, hoax and imagery of something less. The result is human desire to control more than can be. All of you can observe what surrounds you and what you are even better than can we.”

The advice given in that post about how to move forward was similar to what Gandhi also suggested 👍

Lorri

19/8/2021 15:59:24

Off Topic, but there is a GoFundMe begun by a group that is flying airplanes to Kabul to rescue Afghan men and women, and their families who worked with us as allies.

The project is being coordinated with humanitarian groups, military veterans, and activists on the ground. All the people being rescued have been vetted and they have a safe onboarding program in place.

The Taliban has these Afghans on a "Kill List" is searching for them.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/flyaway-emergency-afghan-rescue-mission?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet

They are already at six million dollars in just over 24 hours, and this will allow for several flights. The more they raise, the more flights they can do. They had an initial list of 300 Afghan allies and will keep adding.

Anne

19/8/2021 17:29:43

I don’t know whether to feel sorry for these people who put this Go Fund Me campaign together to be suspicious.

Fact is, Afghanistan has been a slush fund cause for US politicians for a long time and this GFM could be an extension of the corruption. So, do beware.

Patrick

19/8/2021 22:43:07

I hope less than half of the donations end up in the pockets of the organizers.

Lorri

20/8/2021 08:13:01

The organizers have said that every penny is going into the rescue, and everyone involved is doing this for free.

Scott R

20/8/2021 22:48:58

I heard a rumor that Biden is charging to fly people out of Afghanistan...2k a head. Prolly just that. A rumor.

Scott2

21/8/2021 13:00:52

@scottr I think the plan for sleepy Joe has been to make trump look good by comparison. Though I probably shouldn't talk like that if I'm ever in NY or CA but that will never happen.😎

alex campbell

19/8/2021 16:33:39

Biden seems to be a lame duck now after only 7 months. Surely he can't be allowed to hold the top job much longer. Interesting times.

Patrick

19/8/2021 22:32:12

Under the assumption Biden is making key decisions, you would be right, but he's an order taker, placeholder figurehead. Replacing him has been the plan since Joey B was instructed to run for The White House.

Susan

19/8/2021 16:51:45

@ Patrick.. Well, we are trying to keep the Delta Variant out of NZ and for a possible out of control situation as our cousins over the ditch have it real bad in NSW, so rather than having lots and lots of cases that might pop up, it's better to lockdown for at least a week or how long to keep on top of cases, makes sense even if it does look like a prison sentence. Lockdown is also a time for people to slow down look within themselves, have a break, spend time with family, do something creative etc

Patrick

19/8/2021 17:13:04

Your last sentence Susan is a wonderful sentiment, and became some of the best platinum plated bullshit ever offered in the USA. What I am saying is, Kiwis are being fed a heap of bull droppings.

Keep using words for prison inmates in order to become them. Remember what I write here today in a month, two and three. Watch how your government screws the populace, if y'all are willing to submit, just as Australia is doing to its serfs & subjects...uh...I mean "citizens".

You know those folks over in Oz, who have selective privileges the masters dole out when the masters feel like it. Aussies will never get back everything they once thought they had. Be prepared for similar subjugation fed to you as beneficial, to "protect, help & save" everybody. 🙄

Prediction: the virus is going to spread across New Zealand, the "government" will castigate and admonish everybody for not making a better effort, then use that criticism as justification to clamp down harder and harder. Watch and see.

Scott2

19/8/2021 18:12:34

@Patrick hi Patrick I'm just using a metaphor for this question but are things in the world relating to covid gradually building up to a virtual boiling point where everything that the hcp or illuminati or nwo whatever moniker you wish to use starts to unravel and implode thanks.

Patrick

19/8/2021 22:41:16

@ Scott2: Yes, in certain places, for example this has happened in Texas. The President of the USA called the Governor a caveman over it, but the predicted disaster never happened. Several school districts are still defying state supreme court orders, in order to continue restrictions.

Susan

20/8/2021 01:02:43

@ Patrick... Nope, we did it last year and it will be the same this year. As a Collective we are in this together and everyone in NZ is on board Your prediction is wrong. Patrick you are being very rude and quite mean and not very nice and quite frankly you must have the Male Menopausal grumpiness.

Allen

20/8/2021 07:52:31

I'm not feeling any comments to be mean or grumpy or rude. .

It's a prediction based on observations and patterns that are being seen all over.

It'll play out how it does.

As has been stated many times, it's on us to feel what we feel and choose our reactions and response accordingly.

@Susan... I'm sorry you saw it that way. All this virus bullshit and extreme (my opinion) government reaction and fear-based directives is a load of shit and most of us are 'over it'.

Pierluigi

20/8/2021 10:03:47

Susan, the virus cannot be stopped. You can slow it, sure, but nobody can stop its spreading.

The balance that is to be reached is between the possible damage inflicted by the virus, vs the damage inflicted by the curfew/ lockdowns, distancing and other limitations.

Lockdowns are justified only (and just only) if your country medical system is going to be overwhelmed. There is a rich amount of peer reviewed papers that demonstrates, data at hand, that lockdowns are unrelated to death rates.

One could just ask why our politicians are so eager to impose lockdowns, while they are unuseful, or just damaging.

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

Patrick

20/8/2021 12:26:31

@ Susan: Thank you for the attempt at a personal insult, which was beneficial. I did not know what "Male Menopause" was (I vaguely remember hearing it once) so I looked it up. Thank you for the nudge, I learned something. I'm sixty-one years young, so possibly it's happening to me. About NZ, I want to be wrong; let's both hope I am.

Scott2

20/8/2021 13:57:48

@Patrick I think I've heard the term male menopause before not sure if it's a real thing though and I'd guess it was more a defensive reaction from Susan.

Patrick

20/8/2021 14:47:50

@ Scott2: It's several things possibly, but I'm not going to be saving any money on certain products from Tampax or Kotex because of it. My monthly cycle is still missing in action, probably always will be.

Scott2

20/8/2021 15:28:09

@Patrick I've been getting packages of kotex for my mom for yrs now and while I'm sure some so called men would be horrified to do the same I don't care I'd do it for any future gf or wife and maybe any daughters we have.

Lorri

20/8/2021 18:24:55

@Scott2

The ones who would be horrified at buying those products for their wives or any other women/girls in their family, are not men.

They are little boys.

Scott2

20/8/2021 18:42:24

@lorri well basically I look at it is I know I'm not buying them for me so why should I care about getting them for a woman because conceivably most women would get something for there man if he needed it. I did think about buying a package of depends and shipping them to Patrick for a hearty laugh but than he might snap and send Andrew after me. 😁😬

matrix

20/8/2021 09:14:24

@Susan, are yu taking the blue pill

a bit reality check, this below article calling your PM tyrannical....so Patrick is frank and telling yu the truth

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/new-zealands-tyrannical-pm-tells-kiwis-blame-australia-covid-lockdowns

Susan

20/8/2021 19:14:59

@ Matrix.... I was basically just mentioning that one can take a positive look at Lockdowns. Sure no-one wants to be in a lockdown and have Government controls etc etc. I didn't mind the lockdown we had last year for about a month. It was lovely having less traffic and catching up on stuff etc. It was nice for people to stop their busy lives and a lot of people around the world actually had awakenings so from a spirit perspective their souls may have just wanted that

Patrick

20/8/2021 22:24:28

A very positive look is to say restrictions instead of "that word". We never had them and I would not have obeyed anyway. The few places around Texas where local officials attempted to require masks were largely ignored; police refused to attempt enforcement.

The resistance in Texas (maybe elsewhere in the USA but I cannot say, I don't know) arose when dire predictions of millions of nationwide deaths and ten times that number hospitalized, never happened, not even close. It became obvious certain officials were crying wolf.

Since the current federal gov't administration has taken office, the US Mexico border had become a free-for-all of infected newcomers who should not be entering the USA, but are contagious AND being transported all over the country by the federal government. Nobody knows how this will affect case rates, but you can probably guess as well as I can.

Current reported infection rate increases (which I never trust) are being used as fuel to suggest more clampdowns, more restrictions, more fear and even calls for forced vaccination. The population of my state (about 30 million) is mostly not listening to it.

Gary

21/8/2021 00:27:20

So if you're saying why not make the best of a shit situation ... who doesn't want that? Sign me up.

Scott R

20/8/2021 23:04:04

Susan, I dont get you...we are in the middle of the HCP's trying to take control of the world and you think a lockdown is a nice idea...whoa. Youve been through all the Q and A and listened to what the Committee has to say about all of this. You think people are dying all over the world from a fake pandemic?? The Committee has said that only 11-20k are or have died around the world from this so called pandemic but you believe everyone is dropping like flys?? You sound like someone that has no idea about what is going on...how can that be after all the time here spent listening to the Committee explain? Don't get me wrong, if that's your belief then fine, I just dont think I understand your reasoning...

Scott2

21/8/2021 10:54:55

@scottr unfortunately some people just have more difficulty dealing with things than others. As long as we can refrain from insults and personal attacks than Susan can think or believe whatever she wants just like everyone else here. 😊

Saint Irene

20/8/2021 11:08:51

Susan, it is true that there is a beautiful spiritual awakening happening now. But in our 3-D world there are insane beings who have planned crimes against humanity in an attempt to prevent this awakening process.

These deluded ones believe themselves to be more brilliant than God and have mastered the powers of manifestation and telepathy to usurp the sovereign rights of humanity. They will not stop unless they are stopped. No, we don't need to live in fear, but we must use discernment when our sovereign rights are systematically being eliminated.

Patrick is absolutely correct when he advises us to be mindful of the energy of the words we use. Although there's nothing wrong with making the best of a situation, the energy of "I submit and comply." versus "I am a sovereign being and I am free!" holds entirely different vibrations.

Susan

20/8/2021 19:37:53

@Saint Irene

Exactly, so why not make the best of a lockdown? Everything happens for a reason. I don't watch news fear or read conspiracy theories about just about everything you can think of. It's best just to listen to your own intuition and feel for things. Just go within is the best advice I can give anyone

Steph

20/8/2021 14:34:56

Hi, I never usually leave comments. But I just wanted to say how wonderful this websit is + the only one I really trust anymore. I just wanted ask TC something. I got the jab 2 mths ago, I don't know if it was the right thing to do but it's left me with horrible pain in my arm which has not subsided, I was wondering if TC could tell me what is causing this. + also if these boosters shots are at all safe, cause I'm afraid my family will go back for them soon + I worry about the long term effects. This has all been v stressful for me. It would be much appreciated thanks.

Patrick

20/8/2021 14:55:34

"...Are they safe..." = what? A guarantee that you and only will not suffer negative side effects, even if it happens to other people? A range of probabilities good enough for you to assume the minimal risk, as you assess that?

Here's the problem: where is the comprehensive sampling data taken from recipients to determine rates & types of side effects, short term? We do not have any long term data, so you're shooting in the dark there.

Say your GAGs: "The pain is being caused because of tissue damage the vaccine has caused; your metabolism doesn't like it. Your risk of medium and longer term problems is increased because of this early indicator. The solution is to pursue optimal health, to decrease the likelihood of side effects you will not like. Do not receive another vaccine injection, it will cause the same soreness and pain, then likely worsen what you feel now."

Steph

20/8/2021 15:25:32

Wow thanks for that information. Was I supposed to get the jab in the first place though. I'm afraid I made a mistake. + I understand I'm shooting in the dark saying that, but I just worry about my family, my dad has had heart problems in the past + he would probably get millions of these jabs given the chance, it is concerning. + I will try to look after my health from now, I already have a health condition don't what to worsen it.

Saint Irene

20/8/2021 18:36:45

@Steph--I will pray and send Reiki to you, if you'd like...

If you live in the U.S., go to the CDC website to self-report your symptoms on VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Effects System.)

Steph

20/8/2021 19:00:57

Hi, no I live in the UK. Over here we have the Yellow card scheme on the government website that shows all the vaccine injuries + deaths, in fact only 10% is believed to be recorded. It is truly shocking. But I'm still here and hopefully fingers crossed everything will he fine in the future. + you can do that if you like, I do sometimes pray myself, it makes me feel like everything will be ok in the end.

Susan

20/8/2021 19:34:18

@ Steph. The fact that you are in fear about it? this is causing all your symptoms. Everyone reacts differently to the jabs. Some people are sore for a few days, some people might be a bit tired for few days after the second one. I would strongly suggest you go with your gut feeling, your intuition. Your Guides won't tell you want to do, no Guides do that, it's always your choice, feel for the Answer inside of you. What is your fear about long term effects when there is no evidence of that. I would strongly suggest you don't read any conspiracy theories, just go within yourself and you will get the answer. Sending you lots of love and light xxx

Patrick

20/8/2021 21:53:19

There is no evidence of long term effects because.....(drum roll) long term hasn't happened yet. Two to five years would be the range of time needed to say what "long term" is.

Steph

22/8/2021 12:10:22

I understand what you mean, but it is hard sometimes to decide what to do if you're buckling under the pressure to get them. None the less it is done now I'll just have to live with it. Maybe it was meant to be who knows and as for long term effects there's bound to be something that shows up from getting them, same with previous rushed out jabs. I guess it's just luck of the draw if it happens to you or not.

Steph

20/8/2021 15:41:44

Also has getting the jab been beneficial for me at all. I would be interested to know.

Pierluigi

20/8/2021 18:10:04

Dear Steph,
Considering the advice given by Gandhi, it seems to me more positive to accept the jab you already have with gratitude, and refuse firmly the next.
Considering that mind and body are one, I suppose that thisi is the way to have the best from the situation.
I had two pfizer jab , had some very mild muscular pains to my arm, that subsided two/three days after the jab, and nothing at all from the second.
My mindset was that these jabs would be beneficial, and for my family the most. I don't fear death like I did in the past, so I suppose that this helped me a lot.
I suppose that my soul has the ability to guide my body where it has to be, having jabs or not... ;)

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

Steph

20/8/2021 18:55:35

Thanks. It's just I've had pains from the jab for 2 mths now so obviously not normal. I've always suffered anxiety, which is doesn't help matters. But I will try and think positively from now on and treat it as a learning experience, I won't be getting anymore though. Thanks for the reply.

Saint Irene

20/8/2021 19:13:26

Apparently the National Institute of Health (NIH) has officially begun a Global Phase III Clinical Trial of the Covid-19 vaccine. Curiously, this trial just began on June 18, 2021, only a few weeks ago. Even though millions have already been jabbed there have been no follow-up questions asking how they feel...

Link to the NIH outline of the Global Phase III Clinical Trial:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04904471

Susan

20/8/2021 19:23:25

@ Saint Irene. I had my jabs in March and April. Why all this hype and conspiracy. A friend in Sweden just told me that there was a big festival near her with about 500 people who were mostly all unvaccinated and then they caught covid and now there is a break out of covid over 110+ from that Festival. Another friend told me that his Cousin and wife were Anti Vac and then they heard a friend died from Covid, so they went to get vaccinated but they had already caught Covid just before they got the jab. They were very unwell, the wife had pneumonia. You can still get Covid with being vacinated but probably not as bad. .

Patrick

20/8/2021 22:02:05

"....You can still get Covid with being vaccinated but probably not as bad..."

Speculation which cannot be proven, so it is not true. A person gets then recovers from it, thus has antibodies present. No way exists to prove the vaccine reduces symptoms without conducting a long term study of intentionally infected people, both vaccinated and not. Who would volunteer for this?

The vaccine has no positive effect on somebody whose immune system already responded and won. We will find out that many of the negative side effects will arise in people who got the vaccination AFTER developing antibodies. This experimental medication is NOT an "antidote", it is genetic modification.

Susan

20/8/2021 19:26:07

@ Steph. You may have created your pain from the jab because of your Anxiety about it. If you look at it positively the pain may go away. Go into your pain and ask what is it teaching you, why have you got this fear about it??

Steph

21/8/2021 03:20:44

Yea I understand what you mean. I've always been a big worrier, which is why I probably would've been better not getting the jab. I guess the pain is just as explained, is due to my body not liking it. I think it's just teaching me not to get anymore jabs lol + nothing to fear just unpleasant to live with. I've seen a nurse + she wasn't bothered + told me to get a 2nd jab but I'm not.

Susan

20/8/2021 19:44:52

@Patrick... You're welcome ;-) Maybe it's grumpy old man syndrome as well ;-) Well of course we will get more cases. As like last year in lockdown we rose in cases then the numbers dropped so yeah of course we will get rising numbers. I was really just mentioning the positives of a lockdown. I'm sure your guides will also mention positives about it as well!

Patrick

20/8/2021 21:56:24

Stop using the word "NWODKCOL" 😶
You are not a prison inmate. 😊

Susan

20/8/2021 22:41:47

@ Stop being a SPITA

Patrick

20/8/2021 22:59:40

Susan: Please write out what you mean.

Santanu Acharya

22/8/2021 00:21:22

PITA is Pain In The Ass. What does the S stands for ? Sharp, Sudden, Stinging .... 🙄

Patrick

22/8/2021 15:13:06

In this case "stupid" was the word indicated; Stupid Pain In The Ass.
It's a common human habit, to hurl insults in the direction of disliked opinions, information and points-of-view. I'm frankly surprised I receive so little invective.

Anne

22/8/2021 11:04:38

I must say, “Susan”, your responses are canned, like they came out of a tin of alphabet soup, or pop-psych book/new age psyop. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that you are indeed a bot or paid troll. Can you please tell your makers, they need to update you. If you are indeed a genuine person, my apologies.

Gman

20/8/2021 21:18:10

Dear committee, if the data is accurate coming out of Israel (one of the world leaders in Covid vaccination) regarding Covid infections and hospitalizations ....it appears that the they are having many breakthrough cases and that the vaccines aren't quite as effective as we were led to believe. Question 1) is that an accurate observation regarding effectiveness of said vaccines?
Question 2) are we also starting to see ADE( antibody dependant enhancement) occurring in the vaccinated folks(which is from what I've read a very serious thing!)? Question 3) Do the mRNA vaccines effect or disrupt your innate.immune system and its ability to operate as intended? Thank you

Patrick

20/8/2021 22:08:06

Replies The Committee:

1. Yes. Genetic modification of the immune system function is not natural to human body function. The system best operates as a reactive and often memory process. The ability of the same gene modifier to affect every recipient equally cannot exist. Not everybody responds the same, to the same dose of the same type of medication.
2. Yes, and more cases will emerge.
3. Yes, with changes come other changes, not all beneficial. Decreased immunity and decreased ability to respond and fight off other biological intruders will occur to some recipients.

Susan

20/8/2021 22:40:27

@ Patrick.. There are always people who react to all types of vaccines, medications, antibiotics etc etc nothing new so yes there probably will be people who will react to this one as well, nothing new. It's a persons PERSONAL choice if they want the vaccine or not.. Reading about theories and stories is useless. Everyone needs to seek within themselves to make the choice for that is right for them. If you have fear with the vaccine then you will create that for yourself with it. End of story and end of discussion

Patrick

20/8/2021 23:06:19

In the USA reports abound that thousands have died from the vaccine. I'd like to see the data and the studies which verify it, but in the current "get-vaccinated-or-else" mindset, large incentives exist to avoid gathering such data or outright suppress what is compiled.

Susan

21/8/2021 01:05:33

@ Patrick.. If thousands were dying of the vaccine then it would be stopped. If they have then it's their soul's choice to leave Planet Earth

Kyle

21/8/2021 01:38:17

Susan

It has been reported in the USA to VAERS that there have been over 10t vaccine deaths , similar numbers in Europe and UK. And it is estimated that only 10% of adverse events are actually reported. There are many , many doctors and scientists saying the vaccine rollout should be stopped now. There was a Texas senate enquire into the vaccines a few months ago and the question was asked Why are they still pushing vaccines so hard when there is ample evidence they are dangerous usually if a vaccine has more than 25 deaths it is immediately withdrawn

Patrick

21/8/2021 21:48:22

@ Susan: "...If thousands were dying of the vaccine then it would be stopped."
How many examples of thousands of deaths (tens of thousands in some countries) from many things that are never stopped, would you like? Drugs? Crashes? Cigarettes? Armed robbery?

Just because

23/8/2021 22:15:45

@Susan
With all due respect for your own opinions, I myself find your view of life tiresome. You sound like one of those I am better than everyone because “I am spiritual”. If you want to go within, then by all means, go within but please stop telling everyone else to. You seem to harp on our gracious host of this website and tell the rest, who are here to enjoy this website, to go within, listen to your guides, “ ect…ect…ect…” which seems to be a favorite with you. I am sorry if this seems a little harsh but we all, I believe, listen to our guides and our own intuition because we ALL visit this site frequently.
I am truly sorry if this comment offends you but I also feel the need to speak up once in awhile so I did.

Gary

21/8/2021 01:32:40

@Patrick

Once upon a time, I was a grunt in the financial services industry (actually, I still am) and I use to keep a very close eye (performance, composition, weight distribution, etc, etc, etc) on the 3 major indices (Nasdaq, Dow Jones, S&P500). I'd like to add my two cents to you/TC's comments regarding the future market correction or the impact to the indices. "They" could change the composition of the index by removing the heavily damaged companies/industries/sectors and add companies/industries/sectors like utilities or whatever is left standing at the time. "They" can also change the weight distribution from the battered to the less bruised. The price weighted index (Dow Jones) will be destroyed and the market cap weighted indices (S&P500, Nasdaq) will still get beat up even after the changes. But what's the point? If things get that dire, no manipulation of the indices would prevent stocks from getting smashed.

I don't have any professional designations that would prevent me from giving financial advice but why should anybody chance this and let their 401K ride the rough and scary seas? If the market value goes to about half of where we're at now, that's about a 50% loss. Depending on the type of fund you're invested in (growth, value, small cap, etc) you could be in for a larger loss. I would go to the Gov't Fund in your 401K plan... TREASURY BILLS, preferably 3 months or less to really minimize risk for now. Don't even bother with any other bond fund, corporate bonds, munis, high yields, if you're going safe ... go all the way to the TBILLS and be done with it ... let it ride until shit really hits the fan, then cash out. If you're younger than 59 1/2 ... take the 10% early withdrawal penalty. It's better than losing 50% or more. Where to park you hard earned dollars after that? Go to the readings section on this website and pay for that juicy insider trading information and share it with me later!!!!

I'm just giving options here. The real question to me is when. You don't wanna to be late to the 401K cashing out party. Fidelity may not be around to execute your last trade. Many questions I have no answers to ....

Patrick

21/8/2021 21:44:18

For readers unfamiliar with the term, 401K is a tax deferred retirement savings scheme in the USA.

Purchasing power assumes products & services remain available. When drastic investment value changes occur, many products and services are withdrawn.

I never see investment advisors discuss this; economists rarely. Nobody would listen if they did.

alex campbell

21/8/2021 03:01:49

Even from the small number of comments here, it's interesting to note that the topic of the jabs is polarizing and generates fear, uncertainty and doubt. Just as the HCPs planned. The sage advice Gandhi gives is surely both timeless and timely.

My approach to any illness is to acknowledge it, greet it pleasantly and thank it for it's service to me. Then I will embark on a water fast and some meditation as well as an increase in vitamins.

One day this regimen will prove insufficient and then I will bid you a fond farewell without fear.

One of my heroes was early fitness pioneer Jack Lalanne who's catchphrase was 'if man made it, don't eat'. I guess I'm just extending his logic!

Gary

21/8/2021 11:14:18

I just couldn't see the scenario where Kamala Harris gets elected Prez. She's not very popular now and I can't imagine things getting better for her in the future. Trump coming back makes the most sense. Does anybody think the Texas or Florida governors would be a better candidate than Trump? Or are they agents of the HCP's also?

21/8/2021 12:14:09

Question for TC/Patrick,
there is a rumour that Biden will be replaced by Kamala Harris in a few weeks or months, could this be true and realistic plan?

Patrick

21/8/2021 21:38:37

It has been the plan since Biden and Harris were instructed to run.

Lorri

21/8/2021 23:07:32

Well, that could explain the surprising news articles from publications normally supporting Biden who are tearing him apart for the debacle in Afghanistan. I'd been wondering why they turned on him.

Maybe this is to provide a reason for a transition to Harris.

Stephen

21/8/2021 14:08:03

Nobody likes to be locked-down. But an alternative exists - voluntary social distancing.
This is widely practised in many Asian countries, including South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and China. The much lower infection rates of those places show that it works. There, life still goes on, economy is not shut down, and people are still working (unless you are in the hospitality industry).
No one pretends the cornavirus can be locked-up. But less personal intreraction will slow down the infection rate, so the medical system is not overwhelmed, buying time for better vaccine and treatment.
This is not about personal freedom, but just a little common sense and consideration will go a long way. A little less partying and drinking at the local bar/pub for a few more weeks will not kill anyone.
Guess what, economic activity of many places in North-Eastern Asia is almost back to pre-Covid level, with very few new coronavirus cases.

Susan

21/8/2021 17:48:59

@ Kyle My advice to you is DO what is RIGHT for YOU. xxx

kyle

21/8/2021 22:04:51

Unfortunately Susan, soon I might not have a choice . Patrick has said that my guides have stated that I have been exposed to the virus and have anti-bodies to it. So it is not a good idea to get it. The Govt will be making the vax as compulsory as they can ie no interstate travel for the non vaxed ,as my son lives interstate , what do I do , take a risk with the vax , which I believe I do not need or never see my son again !! Not an easy choice !

Susan

21/8/2021 23:19:03

@ Kyle.... Have you felt for the answer yourself (without asking Patrick) What does your intuition say? What does your gut say. Your guidance is your Intuition, tune in. Why is it not a good idea to take it? What is it going to do to you. What are you scared of. I suggest you look into your fear about it. Your decision

Kyle

21/8/2021 23:47:00

You really do not listen do you , It is not how I feel about it, if people are made to get it to participate in society as we know it then it does not matter what I think. Do you understand what No Choice means??
Sounds as if you are suffering from Vaccine regret syndrome, you do know that many leading scientists are stating that anyone who has been jabbed will have serious health issues in the next 2 to 5 years and many will die !!

Saint Irene

22/8/2021 00:07:45

@Kyle--the government restrictions will not last forever, but the results of the jab will. (I had the same fear of never seeing my two adult daughters and grandson who live in different states, but we now do live chat and it works nicely.)

Frank link

22/8/2021 14:24:21

@Kyle, if you have been a regular follower of this site, then you have the knowledge that what is coming as part of the shift will significantly change the way we all live. The restrictions and other limitations on our lives today will be moot given the physical earth and corresponding changes to come. TC has explained that while we have free will individually, we have collectively agreed to experience the shift. My only thought for you is don't make a decision for short term reasons given what is coming. All my best to you

Susan

21/8/2021 17:53:48

Here is Joshua Kadison with his Star Song. Nice distraction and uplifting for you all. I have worked with sound with his energy in the Pleiaidan Star System. Joshua Kadison was very popular in the mid 90's. He had a run of hits Beautiful in my Eyes, Jessie. I used BIME at my wedding. He dropped out of the limelight for a long time but I found him on FB and he accepted my friend request :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6-6W2NDpVQ&t=159s

Susan

22/8/2021 00:13:03

@ Kyle. My intuition tells me you have fear.. I had my jabs in March and April. All good for me. I work in a Covid Clinic to help out. We have vaccinated thousands with no side effects at all. Mostly people just get a sore arm for a day and tired for a day or two. As with any medication or any vaccine there is always some people that will have a reaction. Majority don't, some do. Best of luck to you and my advice is to not read conspiracy theories so called stories about vaccines. You your own intuition as I keep saying. Best of luck to you and your family

Kyle

22/8/2021 00:30:47

You still do not listen The scientists that I have watched talk about these issues have very solid reputations , one won the Nobel prize for the isolation of HIV, NZ Doctors alliance , Frontline Doctors America , Great Barrington Declaration, Dr Micheal Yeadon , Prof Cahill , Dr Peter MCCullogh and many more, all conspiracy theorists are they. You are taking about short term effects from the vaccines, which there have been over 45t deaths but the long term over 3 to 5 years could be the problem.

Susan

22/8/2021 02:05:18

@ Kyle Oh come on, you haven't listened to me. Go within yourself to find the answers you seek. No Scientists haven't figured everything out yet. If you reply I will just say the same thing over and over and over to you. Go within yourself, the answers are all within you. Good luck to you xx

Jude

22/8/2021 03:58:19

Dear Kyle, may I add my “mustard” to the discussion, as the German saying goes? I have not had the jab, nor will I ever have it, I can tell you that with ABSOLUTE certainty. I for one am willing to stand up with my life for the right to be the only one who takes this decision for myself… I am fearless in that sense… The situation that we are in will NOT last forever… Nothing does… It will go by, and COVID-19 and all that came with it will be a faint memory… Saint Irene is right, the jab is a permanent thing, the Corona drama is temporary… The more people simply say NO, or if you will, Thank you but NO (to follow Mr. Gandhi’s advice) the sooner we will leave it behind us. Because we will, be certain of that. The night seems darkest right before dawn… So my advice to you would be, hang in there Kyle, you WILL see your son again, and sooner than you might think! My best wishes to you and your family, be well and safe 🙏🏻

Kyle

22/8/2021 04:31:44

Jude
Thank you for kind and thoughtful comments !

Just because

23/8/2021 22:32:11

@Susan
OMG… do you listen? Please stop telling everyone what to do! Listen to your own gut and intuition and stop trying to convince everyone else you are right.
Patrick NEVER does this and you need to make your own website dedicated to telling people what you think there own intuition is telling them…because…you do not listen to others. If their opinion is different than what you believe you tell them to ignore whatever and “listen to their own intuition “ They are and have been trying to gently let you know they are..hint, hint, listening to their own!

seeingeyes

22/8/2021 01:02:08

The guy is right. That's why he is in jail.

"Julian Assange speaking in 2011: "The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war" #Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/Hg3qVzABBg

"The Intercept‘s Jon Schwarz examined returns on stocks of the five biggest defense contractors: Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and General Dynamics.

Schwarz found that a $10,000 investment in stock evenly split across those five companies on the day in 2001 that then-President Georg W. Bush signed the authorization preceding the US invasion would be worth $97,295 this week, not adjusted for inflation, taxes, or fees.
According to The Intercept:

"This is a far greater return than was available in the overall stock market over the same period. $10,000 invested in an S&P 500 index fund on September 18, 2001, would now be worth $61,613.

That is, defense stocks outperformed the stock market overall by 58% during the Afghanistan War."

"Anyone who believes we were in Afghanistan to help women and girls is a liar or a fool."

"We did not go into Afghanistan to support its people, and we did not stay in Afghanistan to support its people," he added. "It is astonishing, given what we know about the monsters that the U.S. has propped up time and time again around the world,
that the myth persists that we do anything out of our love for human rights.

"The goal is an endless war, not a successful war"

And the same with Covid. They will move the goal posts endlessly if we let them. Mask on, Masks off. Take the jabs, have another jab. Jab the kids. Jab the elderly. Jab, Jab, Jab. Comply, or die. Thats where we are folks.

alex campbell

22/8/2021 02:15:13

We are incredibly powerful beings and can experience whatever timeline we choose to resonate with. Like old-fashioned radio sets, we have a hand on the dial and select the station

Susan

22/8/2021 02:39:56

@ Alex Yes, that the best comment I've seen on here all day. So very very true xxx

Patrick

22/8/2021 14:09:47

But we cannot time travel with our human bodies.

Steph

22/8/2021 12:32:03

I guess that's their plans scuppered then if the war in Afghanistan is over. I always thought staying there so long was ridiculous, I knew it had something to with money. But then I don't think there's ever been a war were someone somewhere hasn't money out of it.

Steph

23/8/2021 05:48:24

Come to think of it their plans probably haven't been scuppered, their plan was probably to get Kamala harris in + get rid of Biden.

Susan

22/8/2021 02:36:34

Greetings. We are the Arcturian Council. We are pleased to connect with all of you.
We are very fortunate to have the perspective that we do on life there on Earth, because we can see how easy it would be to go down a path of despair when looking at yourselves and your society. The reason why we do not get sucked in to that trap is because we see the best in all of you. We see you as you truly are as Source Energy Beings who are merely pretending to be something less than the wholeness of Source. You have gotten very good at pretending, but your awakening is really a remembering. It is a lifting of the veil of forgetfulness, and it is a letting go of the illusion of separation.
You all have been awakening at a faster pace because of the dire circumstances of life on Earth as it has been of late. If you do go into a pit of despair, just realize that you will climb out of it. That feeling, that experience, will be temporary because it’s all part of the game you are all playing with yourselves, and nothing is permanent. Now, we would like to give you some strategies for dealing with your despair and even just your feelings of being down in the dumps from time to time. You can always take a few deep breaths, listen to some soothing music, go outside and enjoy Mother Nature, think about someone you love, and you can always feel for the truth of who you are in the center of your heart.
This remembering that you are doing is very natural. It doesn’t take effort, and in fact, it takes effort to forget. It takes effort to lower your vibration to the extent that you have in this lifetime and in previous ones that you’ve had there on Earth. You get to strip away these layers of forgetfulness at whatever pace is comfortable to you, but make no mistake about it; that is what you are doing. You are there to remember who you really are and who everyone else really is, and the rest of it is really just you playing around with each other.
Now, we know that very serious things are happening and that there is abject pain and suffering there on Earth, and we do not mean to make light of any of that or diminish it in some way, but if you are in a place where you are not feeling a lot of pain, suffering, and despair right now, you can remember that those individuals who are would benefit from you sending love, light, compassion, healing, and forgiveness to them. You can all be of service at any time you desire, and you can all continue the awakening process at any time as well. It is entirely up to you how you move forward, but we know that you will, and that is our perspective, and that is why we always greet you with such optimism and enthusiasm.
You will complete this journey of shifting your consciousness, and you are doing it on a much better feeling timeline than what most of them feel like. So please take a moment and pat yourselves on the back and just remember that this perspective we hold is available to all of you as well.
We are the Arcturian Council, and we have enjoyed connecting with you.”

alex campbell

22/8/2021 15:24:04

My family roll their eyes when I mention the Arcturian Council 😂

Susan

22/8/2021 22:14:43

@ Alex I'm sure The Arcturian Council are rolling their non physical eyes at humanity at well ;-)

Old School

23/8/2021 00:09:06

"abject pain and suffering there on Earth, and we do not mean to make light of any of that or diminish it"

why not? why not bring the light to the darkess? isn't that the point? how is that the language of a higher vibration being? words have meaning. unfortunately, humans hear what they want to hear plus anything channeled or new agey is regarded as super cool and always asumed to be superior to us humans no matter the actual words used or subliminal messages cleverly conveyed.

"You can all be of service at any time you desire" gee thanks but we are all in service already. we are doing it already.

mix enough truth with misinformation and there you have it. this is a mixed message.

Saint Irene

22/8/2021 15:43:45

Buwahaha! From yesterday at the rally in Alabama:

"Everything woke turns to shit...Look at what's happening!"
--Dee Jay Trump

Scott2

22/8/2021 19:53:19

@irene lol wouldn't it be nice if we could make trump president forever. Though if he does become the ambassador of humanity when it comes to our alien friends I predict plenty of tears heartbreak and despair coming from the left worldwide.😊

Saint Irene

22/8/2021 20:48:35

@Scott2--you know, I think he actually would be a great ambassador for us earthlings. It would make sense that "the second coming of Trump" might be on a timed delay for that purpose--LOL!

Scott2

22/8/2021 21:01:17

@irene lol I honestly don't know if I'll ever understand the left but that could be said about the right too

Saint Irene

22/8/2021 17:40:26

Another expert in his field steps forward with evidence about Covid--this gentleman addresses a government medical panel in Barbados, of all places:

https://rumble.com/vlhkwe-irrefutable-evidence-that-sould-send-all-who-knowingly-cooperated-to-prison.html

Susan

22/8/2021 18:07:49

@Patrick... We all shift to many different timelines all the time. For example a group of people here are against the Vaccines, so that is the timeline they are on. Most people here seem very Staunce Trump supports, so that's the timeline they live in. Some people are awakening during this Pandemic, that's the timeline they are on. Say you change your mind about the Vaccine, then you have shifted timelines. . All timelines exist so whatever one you choose to be in will is your choice.

Lorri

22/8/2021 20:06:14

@Susan

What a strange definition of "Timeline" you have.

Susan

22/8/2021 22:12:54

@ Lorri... That's how my guides showed me. We are shifts timelines all the time. Thoughts create timelines

Santanu Acharya

22/8/2021 21:14:29

@Susan: "Most people here seem very Staunce Trump supports, so that's the timeline they live in."

Do you mean to say that for the staunch Trump supporters Trump will be their President in their timeline while for the opponents he won't be?

Susan

22/8/2021 22:11:11

@ Santanu... Yes.. if they have thoughts about that, then that's their reality

Patrick

22/8/2021 22:36:40

No Susan. No.

Lorri

23/8/2021 10:48:57

@Susan

Somehow your definition of timelines didn't work for democrats who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 but got Donald Trump instead.

They were so keenly aware that their candidate didn't win, that we had weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth for the four years that followed.

Those people did not live in an alternate timeline with a different president.

Patrick

22/8/2021 22:38:00

Please Susan, tell me (or us) what is your definition of timeline; what does it mean as you use the word?

Susan

23/8/2021 00:50:53

@ Patrick. I'll give you an example. I was asking a question to my guides about timelines and asked about the many differing stories of the Yeshua story. They answered: "Thoughts create timelines, so if someone has a thought about that story on sayt how many Children did Yeshua have or whether he did this or that then those thoughts create a different timeline. New timelines for his story can be created in the now.

Tigger

23/8/2021 14:06:32

@Susan this definition seems to be missing some other aspects for me to understand how a timeline automatically actualizes a new reality or experience if it was only created by one soul imagining the story or timeline with Yeshua in your example.

I am a creator as all humans are as well, which affords me the creativity to make things often in the forms of dreams but this is not always materialized in a 3D form. For example, I dream of winning the lottery to be able to purchase a home for my beloved Grandmother who is able to find happiness and joy owning a home. But this timeline according to you would exist since it is a belief I hold. But this is not for my highest and greatest good as my guides show me and this experience is not materialized nor exists just because I want it to be. I just don't understand all the other components that actually form the timelines exist with the example you provided.

Saint Irene

22/8/2021 18:28:23

The world speaks out. Video: Dr. Michael McDowell Trinidad and Tobago Facts On How the Bioweapon Was Created

https://www.bitchute.com/video/S5zvMLRcMbjQ/

22/8/2021 20:53:52

White Coat Summit:
A scientific clarification of what these injections do in the head and other organs of the vaccinated people, 17 minutes:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/TsdTTHJteilw/

Saint Irene

22/8/2021 22:05:22

@TV--Wow...great video with so many questions...why no autopsies? why no funding to study this? why the big rush to the jab? Thank you, TV...this doctor is brilliant!

Susan

22/8/2021 22:29:25

@ TV Do you believe everything you read and hear? Are you able to intuitively receive answers for yourself from your guidance? Are you not able to make a decision without reading conspiracy. If you believe something strong enough about what you have read etc and become so certain that it is true, then that is the timeline that you are on. If you choose another timeline that the vaccine is safe then that's the reality. Get it. So which timeline are you going to be on!!

Patrick

23/8/2021 11:29:25

Susan: In your message, I see a recurring pattern:
• Do you....
• Are you....
• If you.....
• that you.....
• If you......
• you are on....
• If you....
• are you.....

Saint Irene

24/8/2021 01:07:48

@Susan--quite frankly, if you were on any other spiritual social media website you would have been removed by now for breaking the rules of conduct. You have hurled insults at Patrick, which we all feel inside because of our honor and respect for him. I'm sure you have good intentions, but your "holier than thou" attitude is not welcome in my timeline, so I respectfully ask that you back off, _ _ _ _ _!

Patrick

24/8/2021 10:38:08

@ Saint Irene: But not here. Free speech and a free press mean we say or write things somebody else doesn't like, or they say / write things WE & I don't like, or with which we disagree.

As long as we don't call each other lewd names, threaten to or actually attack one another, it is fine and even more; it's humanity doing what comes naturally, having disagreements. We're supposed to offer & listen to differences of opinion.

Threaten each other's ideas & opinions? Go for it....

Saint Irene

24/8/2021 13:53:04

Patrick, at the rate we're going, your website may end up being one of the last bastions of free speech in the world...it's a valuable commodity, indeed!

Pierluigi

23/8/2021 02:58:27

Some info to have a wider wiew about the ADE problem with vaccines, and specifically with covid.

The post has been written in february 2021 but it is also updated in march

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/12/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-the-coronavirus-vaccines

I would read the comments, also, because are informative

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

Steph

23/8/2021 05:49:42

That is concerning, nearly everyone I know has been double jabbed, hopefully that doesn't happen.

Saint Irene

23/8/2021 08:21:43

@Steph--After I sent Reiki to you, I received a message for you from Mikao Usui (after Patrick channeled him a couple of years ago, I've been hearing from from him, usually brief, but always bright, bubbly and joyful.)

"Eat well (he gave me an image of a table over-loaded with heaps of fresh produce--LOL!) and love well, yourself and others. Any "body" can be healed with proper nurturing. No waiting for the other shoe to drop (he just showed me a gigantic shoe falling from the sky and pounding to the ground--LOL!) Forgiveness is the key to unlock the ability to cleanse the body. Many will discover this, many will not, as is their bidding."

I hope this message helps, Steph--it was an honor to send Reiki to you--be blessed!

Frank link

23/8/2021 21:04:22

@Saint Irene
That was beautiful

Saint Irene

23/8/2021 21:59:15

@Frank--Thank you for noticing!

Santanu Acharya

23/8/2021 07:59:38

@Patrick: Your prediction about COVID cases in New Zealand already coming true in 3 days ! Cases have risen from 1 to 107 and lockdown has been extended
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/new-zealands-delta-outbreak-tops-100-cases-2021-08-23/

Santanu Acharya

23/8/2021 08:06:39

... I mean downlock 😁😁😁

Scott2

23/8/2021 09:33:06

@santanu might you also be a fan of magenta pixie 😊

Santanu Acharya

23/8/2021 21:11:57

@Scott2: A fan of Mr. Tea Tree too. Still waiting in my timeline to find out what happens to the competition

Saint Irene

23/8/2021 21:52:13

I say yes to Magenta and waiting on the competition, too!

Scott2

24/8/2021 07:46:29

@santanu oh yeah I'm definitely a fan of Mr.tea tree too.

Patrick

23/8/2021 11:34:38

@ Santana:

"...has been extended..." As predictable as sunrise.😑

Go ahead use the word, it's a viable, acceptable and useful one. For prison inmates, people in jail or anybody who wants TO BE ONE.

Scott2

23/8/2021 17:18:51

@Patrick I wonder where or where is Susan 🤔

Santanu Acharya

23/8/2021 21:16:48

As per theory in a timeline where it has not happened

Susan

23/8/2021 22:03:40

@ Santanu. This happened last year as well when we had lockdown. Cases rose, then they went down. We stayed at the highest Lockdown until it improves.

Patrick

24/8/2021 15:56:09

There is that word again. Undermining improvement each time it is used. I'm waiting for the evidence which shows restrictions really do materially slow virus transmission. I will be waiting forever. There's a lot of evidence the restrictions do not. I refer to a sample of 30 million people compared to 39 million compared to 22 million. (Texas, California and Florida, respectively)

seeingeyes

23/8/2021 10:22:18

"Pfizer Jab Receives Full Approval From FDA, Pentagon Mandates Vaccinations For All Troops
The Pentagon's press secretary has just confirmed that - as expected - the DoD will now require all troops across the armed services to get the vaccine.

Troops who refuse the vaccine could face "disciplinary" measures, including being dragged in front of a military tribunal that would mete out punishment.
Commanders have several options for dealing with troops who refuse mandatory COVID-19 vaccines including issuing them a letter of reprimand or taking other administrative action; using nonjudicial punishment to push them to get vaccinated; referring troops to an administrative separation board for failure to obey an order, or even referring service members to courts-martial, which has already happened in the past when some troops refused to get vaccinated for Anthrax."
--------------------------
Israel struggles with COVID surge despite mass vaccinations (with Pfizer)
-FDA newest organization to forfeit entire credibility on behalf big pharma profits

https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?next_url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2f

seeingeyes

23/8/2021 10:27:47

"The woman in the following article is Janet Woodcock, and she is who just approved the Pfizer vaccine for the FDA.

She is also the same person that approved all the Opioids that have ravaged the US for the past 20 years. She is only the acting commissioner and will be leaving her position on November 15th of this year. I think it is no mistake in what they are doing, she approves these fake vaccines, then leaves office so when the people start dying the person responsible will no longer be in a position to be held accountable. Pure evil…

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-19/janet-woodcock-ruled-out-for-permanent-fda-commissioner-post

Steph

23/8/2021 10:51:30

@ saint irene. Thanks for the lovely message, v helpful. I didn't know who he was but I've looked him up, it's lovely to hear from him. I suffer from IBD so telling him me to eat well makes sense to me. I will definitely take heed of that message. Thanks.

Steph

23/8/2021 11:03:08

+ thanks for the reiki too 🙂

Susan

23/8/2021 21:57:07

@ everyone. Just back from a very busy morning. Basically all timelines exist. I hope everyone is having a lovely positive day and thinking positive thoughts on your timelines :-)

Susan

23/8/2021 22:09:34

@ Tigger. Well, this is what my guides have said, all timelines exist. I'll have to find the exact words they said. I was actually talking to the 12D Collective through Daniel when I asked actually, so I can find the recording and type what they actually said.

Linda

23/8/2021 22:54:31

Many may have heard that the FDA approved the Pfizer shot. But not so fast…. Watch this…

https://rumble.com/vll4b9-fda-approval-illegal-doctor-reveals-pfizer-insert-proves-criminal-regulatio.html

In this video the doctor details in rapid succession the criminal issues with the approval? Very informative. There’s so many issues but….

Pay attention to the name given for this COVID-19 shot as can be seen on the insert. You can find and other documents regarding this shot at the fda.gov website. You will see from those documents the heading/title or other name given for this COVID-19 mRNA shot is “comirnaty”. Weird word and I noticed the doctor in the video had a hard time saying it. It not a known medical term or anything.

So I put that word comirnaty into gematrix.org and found that comirnaty equals 118 in simple gematria. And what do you know, that word has already been entered into the gematrix database.
Here’s the other things that also equal 118:

Reject vaccine =118
The Storm =118
Patriots =118
Great Reset =118
True Love =118
The Matrix =118
We Have It All =118
Shine like a Gem =118
Overnight =118

God bless us all. We are all on the same timeline.

Saint Irene

24/8/2021 01:58:45

Thank you, Linda, this video blew my mind! That tongue-twisting alternate name sounds like a satanic invocation to me--and I'm serious about that. I will never even try to pronounce it...I find it rather strange that a now-approved "vaccine" requires a new name at all, unless it's not the same...

The gematria equivalents are fascinating, indeed!

Linda

24/8/2021 04:34:24

Maybe it’s an anagram message:

I AM cry not

Steph

24/8/2021 06:46:02

Simon Parkes said there was the number 666 imprinted onto to the end of the covid vaccine injection, hope that's not true.

Lorri

24/8/2021 12:18:14

Sometimes things are not that complicated.

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/24/1030538074/pfizer-biontech-vaccine-comirnaty-name-pronounce

EXCERPT:

"The naming process started early on in the vaccine's development.

Brand Institute, the naming agency behind the effort, started working with BioNTech in April 2020, according to the website FiercePharma. Pfizer would later join the branding team.

Scott Piergrossi, Brand Institute's president of operations and communications, told FiercePharma that the goal in naming drugs is "to overlap ideas and layer meaning into a name."

According to Pfizer, the pharmaceutical companies wanted to emphasize COVID-19 immunization and the vaccine's core mRNA technology. They also wanted to encompass "community" and "immunity" into the final product.

Comirnaty touches all of the bases.

The name "represents a combination of the terms COVID-19, mRNA, community, and immunity, to highlight the first authorization of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, as well as the joint global efforts that made this achievement possible with unprecedented rigor and efficiency — and with safety at the forefront — during this global pandemic," Pfizer and BioNTech said."

Saint Irene

24/8/2021 12:45:24

Thanks, Lorri...and so the name actually means 'line up and get your jab?'--LOL!

24/8/2021 12:26:40

“comirnaty” I have seen many times in the past this vaccine official name used in other countries but not in North America.

Linda

24/8/2021 13:01:01

I stopped listening and trusting anything from NPR and big pharma a long time ago.

Remember when it was called the Corona Virus — the crown virus.
Funny thing all the marketing and effort for a shot that already has a few monikers. Why get a catchy name from the US Patent and Trademark office for a confusing name that needs articles online to explain. I had read the articles from NPR and the FiercePharma one before I made my comment. Very silly business. I don’t believe any of it.

NPR is part of the fake news we all have been fooled by. It’s what been referred to as the mouth of the beast which is working for the beast system in the allegory that is our timeline, as we know. The one timeline we are all on - individually and collectively.

Lorri

24/8/2021 15:22:11

@Linda

While I would agree that NPR has a bias, the naming of the vaccine is such an innocuous and straightforward subject that I see no reason to lie about it.

I mean, what exactly is it that you don't believe?

Lorri

24/8/2021 15:24:26

I want to add that NPR doesn't have an exclusive on the name. Other outlets have reported the same information about how the vaccine was named.

Steve

24/8/2021 01:17:18

Mother in Law is gunna bust my plums , so I've conceded, booked in for the jab this Saturday!! 😏😏

alex campbell

24/8/2021 01:35:27

The work of Dr Charles Hoffe is interesting. He's found evidence of microclotting in 62% of the recently jabbed. My mother in law tut tuts too. She's fully informed by CNN. But to me it seemed wiser to be at the back of the jab queue looking ahead to see how the front folks are doing. My decision was not her's to make. Anyway best wishes to you whatever you decide.

Steph

24/8/2021 04:48:12

Same here, I felt harassed to get the jab, not v fair, rather selfish actually, it should be a personal choice.

Steph

24/8/2021 04:59:14

Might I just add I don't have a mother in law 😂

Scott2

24/8/2021 14:28:52

@steph if you want a mother in law Patrick has one he'd be happy to part with....eh Patrick 😎

Steph

24/8/2021 15:12:04

@scott2 lol no thanks. I already have a mother who drives me nuts!

Patrick

24/8/2021 15:51:55

@ Scott2: That's right, eh?
@ Steph: No, really she's lovely. She'll teach you to react to her and in Spanish, too! Just think, bi-lingual M-I-L Syndrome. It's great!

Steph

24/8/2021 16:21:29

@ patrick Lol if only I could speak Spanish.

Linda

24/8/2021 13:32:41

Re: The front page photo caption

Yes and yes sometimes when I engage on this site

I’m fine with it though; I’m in good company 😊

Linda

24/8/2021 18:15:14

@Lorri , NPR didn’t come up with the name they are just reporting it with seriousness - as if any of it makes sense. Which it doesn’t. It’s not NPR. The same lame confusing explanation is carried by other players repeating the same. That’s the way it works with networks they all say the same story - it’s why mockingbird media has been referred to as such. The story about the naming is ridiculous and nonsensical. Comirnaty ? Who is going to use that name? Nobody. Not even the talking heads will ever use it. I guess if lots of reports explain the same fake rationale for the name and report the concocted rationale about how they decided on the name and they have so-called respected media organizations reporting it some people believe it. The articles which give examples of other names considered was laughable. Maybe we need more real scientists involved instead of marketing and PR people.

BTW, I remember when NPR was first to infer that the Benghazi massacre was an impromptu attack because of a video. I heard NPR infer that even before Susan Rice went on TV and blamed an internet video. I believed it for a while too. Lots of people still believe that. NPR carries a lot of weight in the industry. Undeservedly so but the HCPs use them effectively-whether they are willingly reporting nonsense or unwittingly the effect is the same and what the HCPs know works on those who consider themselves well-informed.

Lorri

24/8/2021 20:08:25

@Linda

Of course I know that NPR didn't come up with the name.

They were reporting straight from a Pfizer spokesperson. So, I guess you don't believe the Pfizer spokesperson?

I really don't understand what the big deal is about the vaccine name or who will call it by that name. The name is on an insert in the packaging and the only people who need to know the name are those who manufacture it and those who order it.

Who cares if drug companies want to get creative with vaccine names? It doesn't signify anything.

Linda

24/8/2021 20:49:09

The media seems to care and I noticed their spin to explain what is clearly silly and nonsensical.

It’s creativity, on that we can agree, but not from the ones trying to explain it. That’s my point.

Linda

24/8/2021 21:15:16

Susan Shand

24/8/2021 21:34:27

@ Patrick.... Our cases went down to nothing last year after our first spike of Covid in April last year. We had just over a month in Leve 4 lockdown last April. This is the first lockdown for over a year, so yeah it worked for us last time so yeah!

Patrick

25/8/2021 01:49:34

If the restrictions worked (you did not have and will never have a lockdown outside a prison) why is another one needed? Because it did NOT work...or the leaders need more submission & compliance from subjects? Kiwis are not docile enough? The rest of the world needs an example to be rammed down their throats?

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