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7/3/2022

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The headlines I skim are all Ukraine & Russia. I am avoiding almost all details in the articles, and I try to avoid images & video. I am not normally empathic but this time around I am feeling the effects strongly. Nevertheless, an interim report is in order, an update.

Q:   Esteemed Committee, a reader asked about Ukraine and the reply received was that bullets and bombs would not fly between Russian and Ukraina forces after the invasion and occupation. That seemed very wrong. 
C:   The violence is occurring now. When occupation is achieved, Ukranian forces will become part of the Russian Armed Forces. 

Q:   Is there a possibility Ukraine will successfully repel Russia and avoid control?
C:   No. Ukraine will be controlled politically, militarily and economically by Russia much as it was when part of the Soviet Union. 

Q:   For how much longer will the hostility continue?
C:   The military hostility is not yet decided however we can say, depending on the exercise of free will, this can be over in less than two weeks or can extend for two months. The Russian objective is to capture then control, not destroy. How slowly the Russians proceed will turn on Ukranian resistance.

Q:   Does Ukranian leadership know it is a lost cause?
C:   Yes.

Q:   The few headlines I have seen show a committed, strong and brave Ukranian president. He must know more Ukrainians will die if more attempt to fight back.  Is he that fearful of displaying a willingness to concede?
C:   Yes. If he gives in, this would slightly increase the chances he could escape and survive the Russians but this would greatly increase the danger he would face from the powers who control him. 

Q:   Is Russia planning to invade to capture other countries, after Ukraine is taken?
C:   Yes, this planning has been done for many years now.

Q:   Is the Ukraine invasion going badly for Russia, worse than was forecast or expected?
C:   No, it proceeds well within the expected scope designed for the takeover. 

Q:   Are Russian citizens protesting the war going to make a difference?
C:   No. 

Q:   Are foreign powers, such as NATO, going to become involved in the military operations in order to repel Russia?
C:   No. 

Q:   What about weapons and ammunition, everything from rifle cartridges to fighter aircraft, will these tools & materials given to Ukraine make a difference in the war's outcome?
C:   No. 

Q:   The price of crude oil has passed about U$130 per barrel. Will it continue to climb?
C:   Yes, as we said this is the first oil shock we predicted would occur. 

Q:   How high will the price of crude oil rise before peaking?
C:   Most likely it will briefly flirt with $200 per barrel before a steady retreat begins. 

Q:   Are the economic effects going to be as forecast previously? 
C:   Yes. 
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Santanu Acharya
7/3/2022 13:08:58

Some questions:
1. Does the slow proceed of the Russian forces also have a hidden objective of raising the oil price more by prolonging the duration of the war ?
2. Will the $200 peak oil price be solely due to the current Russia-Ukraine conflict or will any geophysical event contribute to that peak level as well?
3. Won't the sanctions adversely affect the Russian economy enough to discourage further invasions?
4. Russia had a bad experience in controlling Afghanistan. Won't a similar thing happen in Ukraine? I ,mean continued guerrilla attacks and uprisings
Thanks.

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Patrick
8/3/2022 09:07:38

Replies The Committee:
1. Partially. This is an expected, desirable side effect but is not the principal reason. The slow progress is an attempt to probe Ukranian resistance and to surround & capture it with minimum destruction, and to avoid destruction of civilian infrastructure and civilian deaths as much as possible.
2. No independent geophysical event will occur to further lift the price of crude oil, as part of this event.
3. No. Russia has been preparing for some time. Economic retraction will occur inside Russia but not enough to become a deterrent against additional expansion. This answer does not mean more aggression and takeovers are going to happen. These decisions are not yet decided.
4. No, because of the cultural, linguistic and social connections between Russia and Ukraine. A relatively calm acceptance will be reached, a Russian favorable government will be installed in Ukraine.

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TV
7/3/2022 16:34:52

"C: Yes. If he gives in, this would slightly increase the chances he could escape and survive the Russians but this would greatly increase the danger he would face from the powers who control him."

Regarding " The powers that control him". Who are those "powers"? HCP or some others, such as USA or other Western powers? Or powers within Ukraine?

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Patrick
8/3/2022 09:10:20

The people behind Zelenskyy's campaign for president. Oligarch type businessmen, who financed his campaign. The HCPs have a finger on these businesspeople and also on Russia. The invasion and takeover are not happening independent of the HCPs, and in many aspects are bring done with their blessing.

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Pierluigi
9/3/2022 11:10:02

So. The HCPs are really wanting this takeover to happen. Interesting.

Anne
10/3/2022 10:30:19

Very interesting. Thank you!

Steve
7/3/2022 20:56:17

In regards to question number one. I would much rather hear them answer. Yes it was very wrong, sometimes we get it WRONG .😁 Rather than " gloss over" that fact.

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Lorri
7/3/2022 22:57:05

@Steve

While there is no such thing as a medium who gets the message right 100% of the time, I don't think this time was wrong.

The original message was as follows (I capitalized the operative word.):

""You mean to ask if bullets and bombs will fly between Russian and Ukrainian military forces, AFTER an invasion and occupation of Ukraine by Russia. No, this will not happen.”

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Lorri
7/3/2022 22:58:52

As of today, 3-7-22, Russia isn't at the occupation stage yet.

Steve
8/3/2022 00:17:42

@ Lorri, that's splitting hairs... I don't expect tc to be accurate at telling the future, far from it. I have followed them from almost day 1 and their strike rate is exceedingly good at being accurate, just would like to see acknowledgement when it isn't, that's all. 😁

Lorri
8/3/2022 00:50:46

@Steve

I genuinely don't understand how it's splitting hairs.

Patrick
8/3/2022 09:15:24

@ Steve: OK, we got some acknowledgement right here: The forecast, and prediction were incorrect. At some point after the occupation is settled, we can assess if it was accurate —bullets and bombs between Russian and Ukrainian military forces— but up until now, it has been wrong. 🤔

Gary
7/3/2022 23:11:28

@Patrick/TC

1) So where will Russia invade next?
2) If an invasion happens, will this be the catalyst to the second oil crisis/shock?

Let me try to answer question #1. Putin is not crazy, he will not invade a NATO country that could kick off a potential 3rd World War. So the former Soviet Union Republics that joined NATO are off the table. Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania are probably safe. Putin's next target will most likely be Georgia. They'll finish what they started in 2008. After Georgia, Moldova could be on their hit list. Moldova is not NATO, its a former Soviet Union Republic and it's right next door to Ukraine. While Finland shares a border with Russia, I don't see this as a likely candidate for Russia as Finland has been a neutral country for a long time, even during the Soviet Union era. Going to war with Finland would automatically draw Sweden (another neutral country) into the war. These two countries have close military ties so I would say Sweden would come to Finland's defense. And if Sweden gets drawn in, Norway would more than likely go to Sweden's defense and that's how a NATO country goes to war with Russia, kicking off a major conflict which Russia will not want. So that's my guess.

What a tragic mess ... hopefully Putin won't invade anybody else ... maybe he'll come to his fucking senses and decide killing humans ain't the fucking answer. Or maybe his soul will do the world a big ass favor and clock out of this incarnation a decade or two earlier than his life plan called for.

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TV
7/3/2022 23:52:49

I've read speculation that Moldova and Kazakhstan will be next in line...

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Patrick
8/3/2022 09:21:16

The Committee has said the decision by Russia to carry out another invasion has not yet been made. Not yet. The Committee also adds: "The decision to do so will turn upon ongoing resistance in Ukraine and the extent to which Russia requires military force to keep the lid on the pot.

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Steve
8/3/2022 02:46:48

I just watched a history of Poland (animated ) on YouTube. Cant believe how many times they've been invaded since the dawn of time. I would suggest they would be very nervous at the moment...

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Patrick
8/3/2022 09:16:59

Poland is a member of NATO, just what Russia wants to keep out of Ukraine.

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Steve
8/3/2022 18:52:45

Pat, exactly, but it's unimaginable to think of the consequences if Putin wants to annex Poland, surely he couldn't be that brazen ?

Linda
8/3/2022 15:34:37

What surprised me was the use of the words, supremely negative.

(“ What Russia has chosen to do is not positive, it is supremely negative. The attention you give the negative aspects, enhances them. Give the Russian people and leaders your good thinking, your good hopes and your wishes for peace and tranquility for everyone.”)

I don’t remember TC using such definitive language prior. “Supremely negative” stumped me for while as did another concept — the theory of a “Just War”. (I had to look it up, but I read about it as a possible explanation for what Russia is doing or trying to do in Ukraine).

It seems to me that what Putin is doing is supremely negative in that two wrongs don’t make a right. You can’t solve a problem with the same level of consciousness that created the problem. That way of thinking —that the ends justify the means —has gotten mankind into all sorts of messes, “holy” wars and crimes against humanity.

BTW…When Q was posting there was never any encouragement of violent or oppressive behavior as a way to fix anything. (On Trump’s new media platform, Truth Social, there are postings from an account calling itself Q)

But we hear Lindsey Graham and others advocate violence against Putin (assassination—killing) as a means to an end.

“… but you who observe what you are shown, serve yourself well to imagine instead what you are not shown, but what you know might be true.”

Perhaps Putin is supremely negative for knowing about the imminent shift and not informing his people of what he knows is to come.

I remember I read here a “goodbye” to the HCPs. Humanity’s freedom from the HCPs must be happening in some way on some level, if you trust the information about that from TC. I do.

How we perceive anything informs it and brings us into alignment with it. What we bless bless us back. What we damn dams us back. Think good thoughts for all involved. The HCPs know our thought are powerful. Think good thoughts ❤️👍

Blessings to all.

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Sad
9/3/2022 13:58:34

I really appreciate this post.
Today I read that Ukraine maternity hospital bombed
Feeling shocked , low, grief.
When I hear/read ‘send love’ it just became a phrase as a full stop. ‘Send love’ - ‘oh yeh right I can conjure that up as if it’s on tap right… wrong’. , I asked guides for some insight what & how? Thought came ‘aspects of love- forgiveness’ For me, that’s a start …I can send forgiveness, as I can see some reasons from Puti’s perspective he felt to do the violent invasion, but can’t accept it, can ‘forgive’. That was a few days ago.Right now, it’s hard. To think someone wants a land called Ukraine but kills people for land …. landgrab more prominent than inspiring hearts & mind. Sad. Sorrow. It’s hard. And I’m thousand of miles away from the devastation. Sad 😔.

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Patrick
9/3/2022 19:10:31

I saw pictures. A maternity hospital.... I'm speechless.

Lorri
9/3/2022 22:10:19

I saw the maternity hospital headline. I could not look.

I had just finished watching a YouTube video showing a hospital grabbing newborns in critical condition at birth, and running with them to the bomb shelter. It also showed people, even extremely elderly people, trying to flee and some who didn't make it.

War is hell.

Linda
8/3/2022 17:35:06

(Excuse the typos above). But that’s not all

I also notice Putin is doing the opposite of what our loving ET cousins from Canopus, Sirius, Acturians, and the others do with regard to us. They watch over us but they don’t interfere. Non-interference is the supreme concept and respects each individual’s right to be. Free will reigns supreme. (There’s that word supreme again). The Committee has the same level of respect for us. That is the loving way.

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Patrick
9/3/2022 19:14:08

Putin is _________ (fill in your preferred adjective, mine is not appropriate for public discourse) This is Nazi Germany stuff he's doing. How can the Russian Federal Assembly tolerate or sanction this? What does the Russian wo/man on the street think of what the Russian Armed Forces are doing? 😑

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Linda
10/3/2022 01:03:29

@Patrick, I don’t have a ready adjective to fill in the blank but I was confused by your two questions because both were asked and answered, in a previous exchange.

“Q: Why is Putin doing this? Why is the Russian Federal Assembly going along with it?
C: The Assembly cannot prevent it or stop it now. A law can be passed but it would not be retroactively effective, and this is very unlikely any way.”

” Q: How are the Russian people going to react in general?
C: Acceptance to indifference will be the principal reaction. Some Russian citizens will be proud, some angry to even furious but Vladimir Putin's political image will improve as a result. Russia grows again, even if temporarily.”

Many years ago I remember TC commenting that the Russian people desire and expect strong leadership and a leader who will make gains for Russia when such opportunity presents itself (I’m paraphrasing so correct me if I’ve got it wrong).

Whatever is going on, we certainly are in the shift. And things seem to be speeding up, too.

“Things are speeding up; now shift!” ~(The Committee, Dec. 2020)

Patrick
10/3/2022 08:07:41

@ Linda:

Apologies for the confusion, my remark was my emotional reaction. I am just the "comm channel" for The Committee. I don't remember all my Qs & As - thank you for digging out that detail. (This website has the best readership ANYWHERE - I'm am quite serious and proud of it, too.)

Santanu Acharya
8/3/2022 21:30:35

Russia claims they discovered 30 biological weapons lab in Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdGsVXMdbxs

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TV
9/3/2022 00:13:01

I had read about those U.S. biolabs in Ukraine already earlier on from U.S. sources...

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Patrick
9/3/2022 19:06:37

The idea of the USA operating bioweapons laboratories in Ukraine is revolting....turns my stomach.

TV
10/3/2022 00:06:32

The policy seems to be, if something is illegal in your own country, move it and do it in another country where it is either legal or the country can not afford to control and enforce the rules...

Patrick
10/3/2022 08:14:36

@ TV - The USA has been doing this forever. One big reason the USA keeps a naval base in Cuba at Guantánamo Bay is to allow imprisonment of captured enemy forces without giving them lawyers or US Constitutional protections for criminal accusations. (Generally, a good idea, by the way.) "Gitmo" as the base is known among US Marines, is well known. We don't know what we don't know about what else.

Scott R
9/3/2022 07:47:43

If you can get past this poor guys biography, lol, hes got a good analysis of what's going on on the ground in Ukraine. https://youtu.be/8dQQgv-nVUY

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Santanu Acharya
9/3/2022 09:26:20

His biography is no less interesting

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Scott R
9/3/2022 10:20:24

Yes, it is, Santanu.

Scott R
9/3/2022 07:51:27

I remember the Committee saying if we sent love to Isis, it would implode 3rd message, love is all you need...

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WHO’d a thought?
9/3/2022 15:05:02

Thank you TEC & Patrick for sharing interim update.

‘ A relatively calm acceptance will be reached, a Russian favorable government will be installed in Ukraine.’

I know to post questions in the ‘questions’ page. Just expressing, any reader can respond in any way they fill fits.

Depressed, de-powered, traumatised incapacitated individual/ people can appear to be calm - calmly resigned, calmly morose. Installing a Russia favourable government may be the best option but are the people truly keen for Russian favourable government as that’s what they’ve been building back up to since 1991 or because it ends destruction & death , replaced with gun to the head mandered new regime? Seems HCPs doing alright out of this.

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Patrick
10/3/2022 09:13:55

Yes, "...because it ends destruction & death , replaced with gun-to-the-head-mandered new regime." THAT'S precisely what Russia has planned.

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TV
9/3/2022 21:35:45

For a change: About New Madrid earthquake threat and North Pole movements:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTx8dQYap90

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Patrick
10/3/2022 09:11:03

That was great.

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Saint Irene
10/3/2022 01:04:19

Blessings and thank you, dear Patrick and TC, for this beautiful and powerful "Message To Mankind."

There is only love, or a call for love. I am choosing to send love to this spectacle that we see before us, that is clearly calling for love.

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Katherine
10/3/2022 07:29:18

If you haven’t seen this, it’s worth checking out.

https://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=FOE.Q&m=3h.ALZ05Kqs1Fz0&b=b2l9ksiKGl4NyLolkIh_LQ

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Patrick
10/3/2022 08:53:02

JP Sears is GREAT. His message at the end is terrific, a great awakening or reset? The choice is individually and collectively ours. (Except if you're in Ukraine at the moment.) Bear in mind, all these folks discussed in the video are employees of the HCPs.

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Stephen
10/3/2022 23:27:05

The list of people mentioned in the video is quite long, including:
Klaus Schwab,
Xi Jinping (really?)
Dr Fauci,
Bill Gates (he doesn't need more money),
Scott Morrison,
Yuval Noah Harari,
Justine Trudeau,
Mark Zuckerberg (surely he doesn't need any more money),
Emmanuel Macro,
Larry Fink (he doesn't need any more money, either)
Joe Biden,
Kamela Harris,
Brian Deese, and
Michael Pyle.
Too bad, economists from UC Berkeley used to run economic policy in the Obama administration, now this is done by Blackrock.
I am impressed with the list above, except I am not sure about Xi Jinping, who reigns over China. I thought the Illuminati employs the opposition to Xi in China.
I always wonder who are working for Illuminati, now there is a small, partial list.
Thank you for the info.

Saint Irene
10/3/2022 09:19:05

Katherine, love this from JP--thanks for sharing!

This quote "Free will?...it's over!" LOL...this just gives me more to send love to!

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Scott R
10/3/2022 14:04:22

Jesus, those people need to be rounded up and given their own island. Leonardo as well...

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Scott Rayborne
10/3/2022 13:46:14

I thought some in here would find this inspiring or else it may help some understand that we are capable of a lot more than we think when the shit hits the fan. About a Russian doctor...the only one on a team sent to the Antarctica, discovers hes got appendicitis and there isnt enough time to get him to a hospital...so, whats he gonna do? https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/03/antarctica-1961-a-soviet-surgeon-has-to-remove-his-own-appendix/72445/

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Linda
10/3/2022 17:57:32

“ but you who observe what you are shown, serve yourself well to imagine instead what you are not shown, but what you know might be true.”

There’s two sides to this story. There always is. One side we are shown and the other not.

It’s easy to get human emotions stirring. And it doesn’t take much to fool us if all the popular news orgs., channels, pundits and networks of our trusted sources are all in lock-step with the same message, images and videos.

Someone sees a picture of a maternity building bombed out, someone else reads a headline about it or watches a video and no further questioning is done. Emotions were triggered. Narrative created. Mission accomplished. But was that really what happened?

We are powerful beings and our emotions powerful things. If we’re going to be so easily triggered by their one version of a story then I agree with TC and The One We Know As Jesus when they suggested we stay off the news completely 👍.

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TV
10/3/2022 19:12:59

Yeah, it;s all a big information battle to grab our minds and hearts. Listen to and read Russian media and you are brainwashed and polarized to believe one way, Chinese media another way, Western media a third way, and so on...

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Scott R
11/3/2022 02:22:56

I shut everything off a couple years ago...I dont even know its going on except for seeing someone in a mask when I shop around...its a lot better for your head.

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TH
11/3/2022 05:54:11

Here is something to bite into...

Zelensky's boss is oligarch and warlord Igor Kolomoisky who lives in Switzerland and has Ukie, Cyprus and Israel passports which is illegal in Ukie to have 2 passports. He has 3.

Kolomoisky built Joe Biden a mainsion on an island off of Naples, Florida. You can only get there by boat and there are about 12 houses.
George Webb on Twitter has driven by it on a boat. The staff was spraying him with a hose and George saw a ramp for Kissenger's wheelchair.
Kolomosiky also bought Zelensky a $34 million oceanfront mansion in Golden Isles, FL (just NE of N Miami Beach) and almost firectly across the state of Florida from Biden's island mansion in Naples, FL.
Nancy Pelosi who's son Paul Pelosi has deals in the Ukraine, has bought a $25 million waterfront mansion in Jupiter Island, FL.

These criminals have made average Ukrianians and Americans lives miserable - yet some re-tards are screaming evil Russia and Putin. This includes a lot of Conservatives.
They are supporting the people who gave us Covid.
One thing we know for sure is the Russians did not give us Covid.

If there was any possible way they could blame Russia for that, they would.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/russia-calls-for-un-security-council-meeting-over-biological-activities-in-ukraine_4330685.html

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Scott R
11/3/2022 08:26:20

TH, how did you come across that?

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Scott R
11/3/2022 08:34:48

George Webb on Twitter...ok.

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Scott2
11/3/2022 12:24:49

Hi Patrick was reading the other day about putin supposedly winning the Nobel prize in medicine and just curious if this is true or just fake news thanks

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Scott R
11/3/2022 12:52:30

Scott...https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vladimir-putin-nobel-peace-prize-nominated/

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Scott2
11/3/2022 13:26:23

@scottr https://babylonbee.com/news/putin-receives-nobel-prize-in-medicine-for-ending-covid-pandemic this might be fake news but I don't know.

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Pierluigi
11/3/2022 14:45:17

Fast question:
Wil biological or bacteriological weapons be used in te russian-ucrainan conflict?

Thank you in advance
Pierluigi

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Patrick
11/3/2022 21:20:15

This is a question of criminality.

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Pierluigi
12/3/2022 07:57:57

In war? Ok. Got it.
Thank you very much

Pierluigi

Patrick
12/3/2022 09:08:44

@ Pierluigi: You are correct to question it; it is often said that in love and in war, all is fair. The problem is....biological and chemical weapons are not defensive. They cannot be used to deter, slow or stop an attack. The defenders will suffer and/or die also.

This means long before an attack is launched, the biological and chemical agents have to be developed. It is well known that both military personnel and civilians will be affected, BOTH.

Is that war?

Pierluigi
12/3/2022 16:17:06

Carpet bombing, fire bombing, daisycutters... I still have to find a weapon that is able to distinguish between military and civilians.

In falluja, US used napalm and phosphorous weapons. Saddam used chemicals. Chemical weapon was born a centiry ago, in WW1. There is an awful long list of wars where unconventional weapons were adopted, just because someone just wants to kill the opponents, no matter how.

I asked because I listened one guy on a radio, that said aliens gave him info about the future. One of this was the current war, and the use of bacteriological weapons in it.

I found it worth a question for the Committee, but I understand that the criminal info ban still correctly applies, because it is an atrocious weapon.

On the other hand, no answer for me is sufficient as answer.

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

Patrick
12/3/2022 20:37:02

It's not the weapon but the people using it.

Linda
12/3/2022 11:19:42

“ This means long before an attack is launched, the biological and chemical agents have to be developed”

And we know now they have been developed and the biological and chemical labs were funded by the US! And those types of labs were not only in Ukraine but elsewhere too - over 300 worldwide.
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Meanwhile, Suspicious 0bservers’ (YT channel) last two videos (yesterday and this morning’s video) report a long duration CME expected to impact earth tomorrow evening. The video says this isn’t the BIG one, but if you reread the post entitled What Is Reality from Nov 3, 2021, a long duration CME and it’s impact to earth is discussed. That post is still available here. Long duration CME are more impactful.

Here is the link to the latest Suspicious 0bservers video (4 minutes)

https://youtu.be/ZOUuaRKVzrs

If you do watch the video check out the long comment by Ronald Hayek which starts, “March 12, 1993: An incredible blizzard known as The Superstorm…. “.

Lasted for three days March 12-15th. Could this be the long duration TC told us about?

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