The Meaning of Death

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Scott2

12/3/2023 14:26:58

I've said before to my stepfather maybe my mom but not sure that I don't fear death as it's kinda silly to spend time worrying about something that's going to happen anyway. Though I would like to stick around another 20 or 30 yrs to see the amazing and exciting world events that will change everything for humanity.

Lorri

12/3/2023 22:32:04

@Scott2

I look forward to death, because it's really a birth.

I don't look forward to the process of getting there, but I hope it will be peaceful. I would love to die while being pain-free and aware and curious enough to observe the process. I also hope to have the experience many dying people have of seeing their loved ones in the room. What could be more wonderful?

I was told that when my great grandmother was dying, she kept saying her deceased husband was waiting at the foot of her bed.

12/3/2023 23:02:53

When our daughter was terminally sick, her late mother was with the daughter every day and they communicated with each other. When the daughter passed away, they both left together.

Lorri

13/3/2023 00:27:38

@TV

And they will both come to get you when it's time. Maybe the old pets will be with them too.

Hospice nurses who are with the dying, all talk about patients seeing deceased loved ones of the human and pet variety.

Scott2

13/3/2023 10:08:38

@lorri yeah I too have thought about the process of when you die what's it like even though we've all been born and died in countless incarnations. Though I wonder if it's like your in a room with people who are still alive and everything is the same for everyone there except the person who has died has been made invisible though you still see your surroundings much like you would if you were alive.

13/3/2023 12:29:47

@Lorri,

Thank you. I hope so. I lived and spent over a year helping to take care of, first my wife and then my daughter under home care in another city. Totally unexpectedly they both passed on within 15 months of each other.

Lorri

13/3/2023 14:02:05

@TV

When it's time 🕒, your wife and daughter will be there with bells on!

🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔

Scott2

13/3/2023 15:59:01

@lorri when my grandmother was in the last few days of her life me and my mom were with her and 3 times we heard her say my mom's father's name it wasn't spooky or anything but clearly he must've been there with us waiting. Also my aunt who passed 4 yrs ago was quite lively the day she passed even though for the prior few weeks she was in hospitals from a fall and it seemed like she had given up even though she was a very active and on the go kinda person pretty much her whole life.

Lorri

13/3/2023 17:08:23

@Scott2

Yes, that burst of awareness and energy is super common in a dying person.

My grandmother had been in a nursing home and slept a lot. But when she began actively dying, she had a burst of awareness and looking around the room.

I had to drive the length of two states to get there before she died. My mother told her to hold on because I was on the way. She held on and stayed conscious long enough for me to arrive and tell her everything I wanted to say. As soon as I stopped speaking, she closed her eyes and never opened them again. She died a few days later.

After her funeral, I drove home to my state. As I got closer to my town, a rainbow appeared and arched just a few feet in front of my car. It looked as if I could drive right through the arch, but it stayed in front of my car for miles. It was an early Sunday morning and I was the only person on the road. It was an extraordinary experience I will never forget.

otherscott

22/3/2023 15:42:06

Lorri, I went through a series of about 60 past life regressions and they each took me through the ending of that life. On each occasion I felt an enormous sense of relief, despite the manner of death. It was like taking an enormous deep breath, but ten-fold; and the sensations were invariably euphoric. I witnessed all manner of my own deaths and have no sense of any of the awful impact of the human view of tragedy, pain or anguish...my only possible negative impression was self-criticism and what I had NOT done when I could have. Curiously, that was my indicator which ensured I was properly identifying myself, as everyone else I was ever involved with I viewed as playing their part flawlessly...I am invariably my worst critic.

Lorri

12/3/2023 22:25:50

Though we don't know the exact time or place of our deaths, some people do seem to have a hint.

Steve Irwin, the Australian wildlife wrangler, told his wife that he felt his life would be cut short somehow. He died of a freak accident with a stingray at age 44.

There are many stories of people having a general sense of how or when they would die. The author, Margaret Mitchell, said she was certain she would die in a car accident, and later in life she was struck by a car while crossing the road and died five days later.

I've long had the feeling that I will die in my 80s - somewhere around age 87. I guess we will see!

Lorri

12/3/2023 22:38:15

Steve Irwin's children were young when he died.

His wife said he was so convinced he would die young, that he told her he decided to stop filming so he could spend more time with his kids.

Steve

13/3/2023 01:54:39

I have conflicting emotions in regards to death. Much like watching my mother in law drive a brand new Mercedes off a cliff ! 😁😁

Scott2

13/3/2023 06:59:16

@steve lmao I think Patrick probably sympathizes with you especially if he could get his mil in the vehicle too.

Patrick

13/3/2023 16:07:27

No emotional conflict there; it's someone else's car, it's all a win. 🚗🙃

Scott2

13/3/2023 16:36:10

@Patrick lol I've thoughts a few times Patrick we know how you feel about your mil but did you ever meet Claudia's dad and was he more pleasant to be around perhaps 🙂

Steve

14/3/2023 04:13:35

It's a 4 seat Merc Scott, got room for 2 more as well ! 😁😁

Scott2

14/3/2023 08:43:32

@steve I hope because it's a 4 seater your not trying to suggest I get in the vehicle 😁. Though ideally I'd try and convince my mother to get in she's big enough to occupy both seats.

Scott R

14/3/2023 04:09:48

Lol...

Steve

15/3/2023 22:02:43

@ Scott2 lol ! 😁😁

maryOMary link

13/3/2023 09:08:02

I have read that a different soul can walk into a body when another is exiting in order to carry on some important work having been done by the soul leaving the body. I wonder if this is indeed true or hogwash.

13/3/2023 12:03:30

This type of soul transmigration has been reported many times, although it is impossible to prove. I mentioned a Buddhist sage here recently. He was originally a Buddhist monk in and from Tibet. Much later in life when he got old and terminally sick but his task was not completed, he was helped to migrate into the body of an Englishman who did not want to live any more. This Buddhist monk described his transmigration in one of his many books. The media assassinated his character because of his unbelievable stories.

Lorri

13/3/2023 13:51:02

@Mary

TC has said it's possible. I think they said Obama has a walk-in soul that came in when he was a young man - because his early life wouldn't have been conducive to him becoming president.

otherscott

13/3/2023 17:01:55

I’ve had this experience. Another soul was a placeholder during my first two and a half decades, then some remarkable situations occurred in my mid-twenties and while I wasn’t aware of it, my closest friends said I became a very much more directed and focused individual with morals and standards previously of no interest to me. I went from jumping from one job to another, a series of dramatically bad relationships and leaving my parents wondering where they’d gone wrong, to a high achieving professional with very stable relationships, proud parents and a pillar of the community. I was further blessed with a neighbor who “saw things” and “knew” both my earlier soul and my current one, being a soul mate of many lives. I was given the breakdown of what had occurred and when and her analysis completely jibed with my own experience. It was an incredible realization, but as above, there is no way to “prove” the reality, but there is no doubt in my mind. I think, dependent on the woo woo circle you’re involved with, this is either a “walk in situation” or a transmigration of souls. It is my understanding this was an agreement between the souls before birth.

Lorri

13/3/2023 17:13:21

@OtherScott

It's interesting that you yourself weren't aware of any personality change. It suggests that it's all true.

14/3/2023 15:43:52

@otherscott:
While hard proof is next to impossible to get, there is circumstancial evidence which can also qualify as a proof...

maryOMary link

13/3/2023 19:10:49

hmm. Humans are often very critical of their self. I am not alone in wishing I could be more accomplished, wiser, focused, a generally overall superior being. (yes I know we are each superior in our unique way, but us earthlings often don't think so)
With our minds exhaustively working against us, I can see why a "fresh" soul might take over a body to complete a mission.
my question to Patrick and TEC: Is the soul replacement a common occurrence?
Can you give us a name of a famous person in history who is a walk-in?,I am thinking specifically of James Madison who wrote the USA constitution.

Patrick

16/3/2023 12:10:29

What?!? You have discovered you are not perfect? How dare you... (in Greta Thunberg's voice...)

Walk-in souls, who replace another one departing a body, in order to continue a life contract mission somewhat uninterrupted if not changed, is rare, rare, rare....

Tlolac

15/3/2023 11:04:01

I think people here would love the testimonies of Christian Sundberg.
He recall, naturally (no regressions) his life before this life, on the other side.
Take a look : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwp0MVuecU4

henk

16/3/2023 04:39:08

https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/the-pirates-hacking-manual-of-aether

This guy is giving an other perspective to Consciousness, Soul etc.
A long read, though.
Maybe Patrick and the TC can comment on this?

Patrick

16/3/2023 12:06:51

Of course, what are the questions?

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