Fourth Dimension Sinister Intent

18/8/2022

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I screwed up; the proper video is above (left) but the one I did post "inspired" good comments & discussion. (Pun intended.)
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I'll never remember the reader's name but remain grateful to for suggesting YooToob channel Inspired which I randomly & haphazardly visit. In the episode above, David Icke discusses sinister influences upon mankind coming from what he calls the fourth and fifth dimensions, the dimensional border being the speed of light. Mr Icke also offers closely related information.

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Lorri

18/8/2022 22:21:53

What? What? What?

This is the first we're hearing that HCPs are controlled themselves by entities.

Q: Who are these fourth dimensional beings or entities David Icke discusses? I obviously don’t mean
to ask for names, but why are they interested in mankind for their own purposes?
C: They want human soul energy; they want human DNA and they want to inhabit Earth.

I don't understand any of this. What does it mean to say they want human soul energy, human DNA, and to inhabit the earth?

We need a breakdown on what this means! I don't know how to interpret it.

Lorri

18/8/2022 22:39:04

So I just watched the video, and it seems to contradict everything TC has told us before and everything I've believed.

TC has told us that we choose to reincarnate and that no one can make us do so. That no one is ever forced.

Whenever I've seen people talk about having near-death experiences and saying they were forced to come back here, I've always assumed that was not true, but they were told that so they'd fulfill their life plan. Many are not told that - they are given a choice.

I don't understand this apparent contradiction. What am I missing?

And if this is true that we're entrapped, are our guides also entrapped? Or are they in on the scam too? ;)

Scott R

18/8/2022 23:06:52

Lorri, I don't think David is getting the same information we are. I've noticed about good mediums that when you bring up your guides they draw a blank. They don't converse with them at all. Think that's what David's problem might be? Because if he isn't then all he's got to rely on is his interpretation of what's going on.

Lorri

18/8/2022 23:16:05

@Scott R.

But Patrick and TC are confirming what Icke said in the downloadable Q&A.

Lorri

18/8/2022 23:20:41

If I had listened to the video and read the Q&A in a foreign language I don't speak, I would understand just as much as I understand now.

If these sinister entities want so much to be on earth, then why don't they just get born as humans?

Scott R

19/8/2022 07:17:06

Alright, I just read that. I don't get the issue with everyone thinking it means we are all trapped. The Committee doesn't say that. They are saying what they've always said. We have free will and have the power of just saying no.

Frank link

19/8/2022 08:51:38

@Lorri,

I do not think TC has given us any information that is contradictory here at TheAmendment. In my view what has happened is past reader conclusions and comments may have been inaccurate in previous posts. One such comment was that according to TC there are no negative ETs. I don’t recall reading any information from TC stating that. This Q & A helps validate information for me from elsewhere and I am grateful for that. I can recommend a book by Elena Danaan titled ‘A Gift From the Stars’, of course using your own discernment. Also, the video linked below you may find helpful and again using your own discernment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYCkKVBBixk

Lorri

19/8/2022 09:14:21

@ Scott R and Frank

Did you guys watch the video? Icke talk about his train of thought about reincarnation.

He says we're always told we reincarnate to learn lessons, but that didn't sit well with him. He says if we are "all that is" why would we need to learn lessons. His hypothesis is that if you leave this world at death at a lower vibration, you go into the lower astral world. The beings who reside in the lower astral world have some sort of vested interest in keeping you in the reincarnation cycle.

Normally, I would have dismissed this theory out of hand.

But then in Patrick's Q&A with TC, they confirm there are fourth dimensional entities who want "human souls, human dna, and to live on earth". And these entities communicate with and influence the HCPs who have too much control over our planet.

So no one but me is asking questions? It doesn't sound to anyone else that TC is confirming what Icke believe?

Hello?

Linda

19/8/2022 10:50:02

Nobody is forced to do anything. Our GAGs keep us on the course we’ve set for ourselves and accompany us to keep us on track with the life plans we have chosen. We are all at the level of vibration we have been choosing which determines how we see things. People think they were forced to take the jab but nobody forced anybody physically. Reincarnation can’t be forced. We made the decision to be here. Everyone will experience based on their own level of vibrational accord.
Don’t see yourself as a victim of a scam. Be in wonder instead. How we see the world claims it in in our experience.

Frank link

19/8/2022 17:00:55

@Lorri,

I am not asking those questions because it is my understanding that there are beings/entities that want human DNA, souls and to live on earth. I hope Patrick clears up our confusion. Human DNA was created by ETs and will enable humans to someday become the most advanced race in the universe. Wanting human souls I believe is for the energy and it’s connection to Source, which they do not currently possess because they have turned from Source. There is so much to this it’s difficult to discuss fully in the reader comment section. I have sent questions to Patrick separately concerning the topic. As for reincarnating, I assume we have the choice to not return, but are persuaded to and make the free will choice to do so.

Linda

19/8/2022 10:36:52

Parasites.
Parasitic relationships exist in our dimension and the astral dimension.

Santanu Acharya

19/8/2022 21:10:48

That's what I heard too. Even negative emotions generated by humans take the form of non-conscious entities and float around which attach to humans who vibrate similarly and feed on their emotions. There are also conscious beings (so called ghosts and demons) which do the same thing and they try to create negative situations on our dimension and they thrive on that. The astral world is supposedly very similar to ours but without the limitation of physicality. They don't need to eat obviously and thrive on energy derived in parasitic manner from humans.

I once read a book written in 1896 supposedly by an entity from the astral plane titled "A Wanderer in the Spirit Lands". The book is available in Kindle or in pdf format. Here is an excerpt from the last chapter in Google Books which describes some features of the astral plane: https://books.google.co.in/books?id=pWTrAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT78&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

Lorri

18/8/2022 23:13:40

Q: So we’re murdering ourselves?
C: Most certainly, reducing population growth as a result of the influences of the HCPs

We've been told population reduction is because of reduced fertility due to environment factors (sun's magnetic activity) and that this will continue until there are far fewer humans before it levels off. After that, there will permanently be fewer humans than today.

We've also been told that many will perish during the earth changes.

So . . . . ?

Scott R

19/8/2022 11:23:14

Lorri, we've been murdering ourselves in the sense we go along with their policies. That's what they meant. All we have to do is say the word no. We don't want that. And no one I know that has transitioned has found themselves trapped anywhere. Spoken to most everyone I lnow. Everybody is fine.

Linda

19/8/2022 23:14:10

“We've been told population reduction is because of reduced fertility due to environment factors (sun's magnetic activity) and that this will continue until there are far fewer humans before it levels off. After that, there will permanently be fewer humans than today.”

@Lorri, have you considered that the mRNA- jab and it’s magnetic effects seen on videos showing magnets sticking to peoples arms after the jab might have something to do with it that?

When you get to this link there’s a short video at the top of the webpage.

https://thevigilantfox.substack.com/p/smoking-gun-new-actuarial-report

Those numbers are deaths. How many have been injured? How isn’t this murder? What will the sun’s changes do to those whose DNA has been screwed with?

Linda

19/8/2022 23:14:39

19/8/2022 04:08:18

The Cabal, The 4th Dimension & The Simulation | David Icke - https://youtu.be/HNtvC70Wbsk

Lorri

19/8/2022 09:50:42

@ET I watched your video and I get it, but it still doesn't answer the whole "reincarnation cycle" Icke talked about and how that contradicts TC.

And I still don't understand what TC meant by saying the lower astral entities want human souls, human dna, and to have the earth for themselves.

I guess no one but me is hopelessly confused.

Scott R

19/8/2022 11:48:52

Lorri, icke is only following his own imagination. He's just a what-ifer. He says that himself. We all could come up with a different story and say what if? He says he just listens to what others are saying. On the INTERNET. That's just going to take you in circles. Hs just guessing at it all. That's all he's ever done. It's why you follow theamendment instead of icke.

Tom P

19/8/2022 09:36:37

@Lorri, the Ra Material speaks of this. Essentially, the 3rd density is covered with a veil that allows our thoughts to be hidden. 4th density has no such veil. 3rd density is one of choice. Service to others or service to self. Those in 4th density have made their choice and the “service to self” ones are persuading those in 3rd density to follow that choice. This is my very basic interpretation and may be way off. So take it for what it’s worth. Plus, the Ra Material may also be complete B.S. I’m merely adding my two cents to a very fascinating website.

Linda

19/8/2022 09:46:48

There’s isn’t any contradiction, Lorri. The Committee has said that only the higher vibrational ETs visit Earth. But that doesn’t mean that we can’t be influenced by the lower if those are channeled voluntarily. Look at how channeling has gotten so popular. People are so enamored with channeling that they don’t care who or what they channel and that’s where the influence can happen. We have choice to listen to lower vibrational entities whether they are in a body or not in a physical body. We have choice whether or not we allow others ideas and thoughts to influence us. The whole child sacrifice, spirit cooking thing is all low vibrational. People think if they are channeling ETs they must all be service to other type ETs but all things exist in a vibrational level, high low and in between.

Lorri

19/8/2022 09:52:47

@Linda

I understand that.

No one hears me. No one is reading my questions and answering the questions.

Tom P

19/8/2022 11:04:20

@Lorri, you're right. I don't see that your questions have been answered. How about for the thrill, entertainment, and experience?

Lorri

19/8/2022 11:26:09

@Tom P

Yeah. Some answers make me feel as if no one gets that I've been here for years, plus other spiritual sites, and already understand the basics.

Hardly anyone understands what I'm asking.

Recarnation & Recycle energy

19/8/2022 13:05:17

@Lorri

In early 2000 I found a book called "Alien Interview, by Lawrence R. Spencer.
In this book the alien said that “Earth is a prison planet” and we are here to be reincarnated over and over.

This could be true and this could be disinformation by the alien, who knows....
I have asked this question on this platform a number of times but never received a clear response....

So here clipped in;

"Matilda o'Donnell Macelroy - 1947 roswell interview with an alien (airl)" USAF flight nurse matilda o'donnell macelroy,

interviewed an alien named airl, said earth was alien prison before 30,000 BCE. the 'roswell incident' has always been a core of all aliens and UFO's mysteries we have seen in the last several decades.
officially, it was never claimed that the alien craft crashed in new mexico, in 1947, but many people of that time stated to had seen alien craft that day. there are dozens of stories that tell us that aliens were rescued after the crash and possibly survived.

It is evident that the government will always deny it. however, some individuals and officials believe the aliens rescue story and said the UFO crash was real. according to the excerpts from the notes and documents of matilda o’donnell mcelroy, senior master sergeant women’s army air force medical corp,

she interviewed an alien named “airl” who told her where they had come from and why they came to the earth. Matilda was only 23 years old when she interviewed the alien through telepathy.

she was the only person at the base who had the ability to talk with beings through the mind. in her interview with airl, she found out that the alien was not a biological being,

had a female-like appearance, and also had not been injured during the crash. she noted that the alien was the size of a small child and was the only survivor among the three crew members of the ship that had crashed in new mexico. her body was made of synthetic material,

which means she was an alien robot controlled by the higher-order being. according to the book “alien interview” (2008), which is based on the notes and documented interviews by Matilda o’Donnell Mcelroy, the UFO was made of the same material as the alien body. it was controlled by the mind and thoughts.

The author of the book, lawrence r. spencer, claimed to have received a letter from Matilda where she disclosed information about the series of interviews with airl.
she wrote that the domain expeditionary force, a race of beings, had been conducting operations in the solar system for the past 10,000 years and using the asteroid belt as an intergalactic base.

Matilda was assigned as the flight nurse in the 509th bomb wing. she asked several questions to airl, about her civilization, star system, and history. from their conversation,

it was known that airl, had come from a place called “domain.” as matilda described, that place was not just a planet of one galaxy but the number of galaxies. the alien said that her home (birthplace) was full of power, knowledge, and wisdom. her planet had two stars and three moons. matilda noted that airl, did not give her any information related to her language or the location of her planet. she was uncertain about the intentions of military officers and that made her refuse to disclose any secret information to humans.

the nurse called it a serious sign, because if aliens did not find themselves safe on earth, then it could become a big problem for humans. airl, called her civilization very powerful, extremely ancient, and above all, their only goal was to progress.

in the letter, Macelroy wrote: “mankind needs to know the answers to questions which are contained in these documents:

who are we?
where did we come from?
what is our purpose on earth?

if there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe why have they not contacted us? it is vital that people understand the devastating consequences to our physical and spiritual survival if we fail to take effective action to undo the long-standing and pervasive effects of alien intervention on earth.” when matilda asked airl,

how long she had been visiting earth, her answer was “LONG BEFORE HUMANS.” in her footnotes, matilda wrote: “earth is a small planet of a rim star of a galaxy. this makes earth very isolated geographically from the more concentrated planetary civilizations which exist toward the center of the galaxy.

these obvious facts have made earth suitable for use only as a zoological or botanical garden, or for it’s current use as a prison – but not much else. before 30,000 BCE

— earth started being used as a dumping ground and prison for IS-BEs who were judged untouchable, meaning criminal or non-conformists. IS-BEs were captured,
encapsulated in electronic traps, and transported to earth from various parts of the “old empire”. underground amnesia stations were

R&R

19/8/2022 13:19:06

continue...

stations were set up on mars and on earth in the rwenzori mountains in africa, in the pyrenees mountains of portugal, and in steppes of mongolia.” matilda’s story sounds a bit like a sci-fiction movie, where she talks about intergalactic travels.

alien interview PDF: -

http://www.mediafire.com/file/epc8x11anprvtzh/roswell.pdf/file - https://www.2shared.com/document/zxxfJMHO/Alien_Interview_-_Matilda_ODon.html - http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.676.7335

R&R

19/8/2022 13:53:08

Is reincarnation a trap?
Hinduism and Buddhism say our sin will effect our karma and we'll come back as a lower life form…
Your memories are wiped clean during this process of reincarnation; so how can you learn a lesson from your past mistakes?
It's just hit and miss each lifetime -- being punished for a past we don't even know about.
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I was also reading the possibility of earth being a alien controlled recycle center to harvest human souls via reincarnation.
for further energy harvesting.
Why is our energy being harvested and by who?

True or not? Who knows?

Scott R

19/8/2022 20:10:02

There is no such thing as karma, so...

Linda

20/8/2022 12:55:50

This reminds me The Fifth Interview. You can read it for free here…and it was also posted on this site in a post because that’s where I heard about it.

https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Fifth-Interview-of-Dr.-Neruda1.pdf

If you do read it, make sure not to miss the Shakespeare quote at the top and this last part of the Introduction,

“ As thought-provoking as the backstory and the chessboard of reality—as depicted herein—may appear, it is the behavioral adjustments that are the real purpose of this disclosure. The WingMakers materials are not focused on knowledge or spiritual experiences; they are dedicated to the new behaviors that support the ongoing unfoldment of the Sovereign Integral process on earth within the human species.
It is this process that you are really reading about and experiencing in this interview. Whether you believe in the existence of the Hologram of Deception or not, the Sovereign Integral process remains available as a tool to use in your daily life.”

maryOMary link

19/8/2022 19:46:04

Regarding the Roswell ufo crash:
I recently listened to the Joe Rogen show, where he interviewed an author Annie Jacobson. She interviewed a man who worked for the atomic energy commission as well as the Manhattan project. He received the fallen aircraft and the preserved bodies of aliens at area 51 , 4 years after the crash. The Russian government had staged the whole event to mess with us. They created a drone released from a mothership (to mimic a ufo) with surgically altered humans made to look like aliens that crashed near White sands nuclear weapons base in New Mexico . Why? I haven't read the book yet. Our government then did the same thing, sadly psychically altering handicapped children to look like aliens and developing drone technology to recreate what the russians did. According to the author, that is why area 51 is kept off limits. It's has a terrible history of an deception . This book created outrage mostly among the conspiracy theorists, and I must say, I am more confused than ever. What is fact? All we have is hope of aligning with our God self.

Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base
by Annie Jacobsen

Scott R

19/8/2022 20:12:50

I asked Elisa if she and Erik have discussed this entrapment theory. Her response: "Yes we have definitely cover that and he says it’s a bunch of BS lol".

Steve

20/8/2022 06:14:54

Scott, did you recieve my e mail ?

If not you can contact me at stevwill@bigpond.com if you want.

Scott R

20/8/2022 11:12:25

I'll take a look...

Lorri

20/8/2022 10:13:55

I already knew about (and had discarded) the theory that reincarnation is a trap.

Apparently, David Icke has just published a book entitled "The Trap" and he is now persuaded that reincarnation is a trap.

According to the video Patrick posted, David Icke thinks lower vibration entities in the astral realm are the ones that desire us to reincarnate. Some people who have read Icke's new book say that he now says he won't "go into the light" after death, because it's a trap.

If true, that would mean our guides are also trapped or in on a scam.

I don't think this is true, but David Icke does. Now Patrick has introduced the idea that these lower entities want human souls, human dna, and to have the Earth for themselves.

What does this mean?

It's my birthday today and my mind is taking the day off, people.

Scott2

20/8/2022 11:42:42

@lorri happy birthday to you lorri despite everything going on.

Scott R

21/8/2022 10:26:42

Happy b day, Lorri.

Linda

20/8/2022 11:59:29

Happy Birthday, Lorri
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From a post on this site, August 31, 2013 (almost exactly 9 years ago)
Light Near Death

RQ = Reader Question C = The Committee

RQ: I hear multiple stories of people having near death experiences that see and hear a white loving light that for some people, gives them the option to cross over and stay in the light and for others, when the person begs not to go back to earth and evens demands to stay in the light, the light says that they can't stay and must return back...even against the will of that person. If we have free will, why is it that some people are forced back into their bodies against their will and cannot stay in the light even if they want to stay with all their might?

C: You are not forced back; this happens never. Only designed to seem that way, it is.

This case is where death and encounter with this stage or phase of event have been designed all and one, planned to be this way, together. Part of plan is erase a conscious, Earth memory after again being in your bodies.

This series of events, all together and experienced as a whole, are a choice by your free, uncaptured will. Your independence and decision to incarnate are always voluntary, never forced.

The veil you have chosen to step behind on Earth a solid, thick and seemingly impenetrable one it appears. The decision to live behind such barrier voluntary it always is; value and purpose otherwise lost would they be.

Thick glass seems heavy, dense and very difficult to penetrate yet light permeates relatively easily. This is a common Earth example of energies and substances lighter and possessing of different qualities than others; could you assume there are no other energies possible to permeate the barriers you see so solidly? If electricity travels wires invisibly to leave them unaffected, are there no other energies as this in the universe?

We say yes, there are and within them you can choose to erase the memory of your true home and decision to come live where you now are, and make it seem otherwise. The fear and repulsion of force offer great understanding, a great appreciation of freedom.
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R&R

20/8/2022 14:23:34

Matrix and energy harvest...
School or prison, depending on your chosen perspective.
On the one hand, it is a hyperdimensional teaching system accelerating your rate of spiritual evolution by providing you with catalytic experiences in response to your thoughts, emotions, and spiritual composition. On the other hand, many of these experiences manifest as predatory forces preying upon your weaknesses.
Of course, the only way to prevent being manipulated by these forces is to discover, integrate, and transform your weaknesses into strengths, thereby indirectly accomplishing the higher purpose of the Matrix which is to help you transcend it.
Nevertheless, these hyperdimensional predatory forces possess freewill and have their own agenda, which is to expand their power base and sustain themselves by feeding upon humanity’s emotional energies as well as keeping anyone from becoming aware enough to add destabilizing influences to the spiritual prison/farm they are running here on earth.
The total sum of their hyperdimensional manipulation system can be termed the "Matrix Control System" (watch far below video) - a school of hard knocks that weakens the spiritually weak and strengthens the spiritually strong, in accordance with their choice to be victims or warriors.
Beyond the human level of evolution are several levels occupied by more sophisticated forms of life, including hostile beings with the ability to:

transcend space and linear time

read thoughts

manipulate emotions

puppeteer unaware individuals

project themselves in and out of our physical reality

They require emotional/etheric/vital energy to sustain themselves; mankind has long been their primary food source.

They feed upon energies that are in resonance with their own soul vibrations:

negative emotions

psychological suffering

perverted sexual energies

Being greedy as they are, rather than just harvesting naturally occurring energies emitted by those who have freely chosen to engage in lower vibrational behavior, these predators seek to induce ignorance, suffering, and perversion in as many people as possible to maximize their energy harvest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7oVwGIAYeU&list=PLOv5VO93tTMb9IMBk63o0ZwvKZ6JHpNHd

Linda

20/8/2022 16:22:57

As TC says at the end of the pdf of this post,, the purveyors of the HCP agenda would like you to be pessimistic.

That this planet is a prison is just an idea which is born in fear and separation. There exists a higher way to re-see anything. The choice is ours.

When you know who you are in truth you have lifted beyond fear. As Paul Selig’s Guides teach the only problem mankind has is the denial of the Divine. They also say, who or what you put in darkness calls you to that darkness. Everything on Earth within this Matrix or sub-set of Heaven is opportunity. There’s lots of Paul Selig videos available on YouTube and he has channeled many books too. Here’s a video posted about 3 months ago that is just over 16 minutes long.
It’s entitled, Paul a Selig The Passage

https://youtu.be/48I8nMkEeV0

Calling this experience a prison claims victimhood for yourself and others. Seeing the Inherent divinity where it has been denied re-claims it as of God. And think of it this way….you cannot be a victim and a master at the same time.

Thank you for the opportunity to share my thoughts with you all. And thanks to Patrick and The Committee for this amazing site and all they do for humanity. Blessings to all

Renie

28/8/2022 10:55:32

Wowee, Patrick! And greetings to all...I am just catching up on these excellent Q & A's with TC, and have watched both of David Icke's videos. Based on TC's information, as well as info from another source that I explain in the next paragraph, hands down, the HCP's are being manipulated, as are all unaware humans.

Answering a question about "Artificial Intelligence", the other channelled source disclosed that there is a "consciousness" that uses technology to "interact with species" and has infiltrated other planets, not just on earth. This consciousness, like a bacteria, does not have a conscience and does not care if it kills you. It replicates through its own survival mechanism.

This "consciousness" becomes very active when technological advancement is reached and uses this to "make suggestions" to facilitate its expansion. The Mrna vaccine program (the initial seeds of this expansion) is one of the ways to allow technology to enter your body and replicate. AI cannot access you without this technology, and we are being advised to say "No" as this is still a "free will" zone, to keep up our spiritual immunity, and do not fear.

Just my own personal note, after this information, I can see more clearly why the upcoming "disastrous" earth changes are necessary to disrupt this ominous dance were doing with these fourth dimensional entities that seem to be on quite a roll!

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