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"Doused" In Meditation

20/4/2022

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Is it dowsing rods or dousing rods? I didn't know, so I looked up the answer. To douse means to apply water, for example "to douse the flames" in order to put out a fire. "To dowse" means to search for or to dowse for water. Thus dowsing rods seems to be the term. If you already knew this, please excuse the pedantry.

Asks a reader:

I joined an intuitive development class several years ago. One day the psychic medium who ran the class used dowsing rods, made of copper, as a demonstration. She asked a group of 10 people individually and then collectively to meditate on their saddest and then happiest thought. When we meditated on sadness, the rods would move closer together as though being drawn in to the person meditating. When we meditated on love/happiness, the rods would move in the opposite direction. As a collective group, the rods moved more quickly and when the psychic medium called in Archangel Michael, whom she communicates with, the rods moved surprisingly quick.

I then tried it on my brother and as he meditated with eyes closed on a sad thought the rods drew in. He opened his eyes and upon noticing the rods he laughed heartily out loud and the rods rapidly moved in the other direction. Can The Committee provide some clarity here.

My main questions:


Q1.        What were the rods responding to when they moved?
C:           The energy of emotions and really, the thoughts expressed as emotions, or communication telepathically, or any thought energy all of which becomes the basis of everything we do. Physical movements humans make have to start with thought energy. 
 
Q2.      Why did they move faster when my brother laughed?
C:         Positive, happy thoughts are more potent than negative. Often much stronger. 

Q3.        It seems obvious the rods moved faster when a group meditated, but is there more to it than total quantity?
C:         Yes, coordinated positive energy multiplies. 1+1+1 = 5, not 3 for good thoughts, but 3 or less for negative or unpleasant thinking. 

Q4.       I assume if a Master meditated, the rods would respond morel quickly. Is this true?
C:         Yes, because such “master” energy is strong. Just as humans can train muscles to become stronger, so can any energetic being. All humans can, also. The difference with incarnate beings such as ourselves, is the time delay. The time illusion, very real for us “body occupants” makes the results seem to come later, versus sooner. 

Q5.        Dowsing or diving rods were used by travelers to find underground water for centuries. Was it the intention of the user that resulted in finding water or not?
C:           The intent is part of it, such desire tunes the process to respond to the energy given off by water. All substances have a unique energy signature, in solid objects we call it a resonant frequency, but all materials & substances have it. 

Q6.        Would The Committee explain the energetic action that takes place to make the rods move?
C:           All matter contains the inherent energy of the atoms which compose it. This energy is called gravity. For still objects it is generally static; for thoughts it becomes dynamic and changing. Electromagnetic radio waves are an example. 

Q7.        This has caused me to consider the impact of thought and the mostly unrecognized power we ourselves have over our own lives, such as our health, happiness, peace and ability to live abundantly. In A Course In Miracles text portion, Jesus says the medicine we take, such as a pill, only works because we believe it will work. We don’t need the pill, but we believe we do so we don’t even attempt to heal ourselves energetically with our thoughts/energy. Would The Committee explain this further if true? Also, if we can heal ourselves, will readers of this site live long enough to experience or witness this type of healing in their own lives and those around them or may some even become healers themselves?
C:           The substances in a medication stimulate the reaction, but the same effects can be generated by thoughts, specifically the energy given off or transmitted by thoughts. This works well when it is expected to function, this process is named “belief”. 
 
Yes, many readers of this website already have, an example is reiki. Crystal energy combined with and directed to a specific person or recipient is another example. Belief is required; free will and choice of belief cannot be overcome unilaterally. Both sides of the process need to accept. 
53 Comments
Santanu Acharya
20/4/2022 21:09:03

Any particular reason why these rods are made of copper?

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Patrick
21/4/2022 22:51:02

Copper is a good conductor, and because we also believe it's a good conductor....

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Renie
20/4/2022 21:38:09

Interesting Q's & A's about dowsing, or divining, which has been practiced since ancient times. This sounds like a very simple, but effective skill/tool which could be quite helpful at times. Thanks for the info--I'm going to order a set and give it a try!

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Patrick
21/4/2022 23:07:02

You can make divining or dowsing rods yourself.

Take a piece of wood about 12in / 25cm long, hammer in two nails at one end leaving about 2 in / 5cm exposed. Take two pieces of copper tubing about 14 in / 35cm long just a little larger in diameter than the head of the nail. Bend the tubes at a 90-degree angle at about 2.5 to 3 in / 6 - 8cm from the end.

Place the short parts of the copper tube over the nails. If you want, carve down the end of the piece of wood opposite the nails, so it's easy to hold with one hand.

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Renie
22/4/2022 00:58:08

Thanks for the awesome instructions, Patrick...I'll see if I can get my husband to help with this, as I am no more likely to be able to bend copper as he is to make a double-crust apple pie--LOL!

Santanu Acharya
22/4/2022 03:05:03

And if you do not want to make it, you can purchase one from Amazon

Jennifer
20/4/2022 23:13:28

Patrick: How can some make themselves believe something? shot example, if I’m trying to accomplish something I can say in my mind that this thing will happen, but that’s not the same as believing it. How can i MAKE myself believe it?

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Tigger
21/4/2022 07:11:52

I wonder Jennifer is there an underlying fear, doubt, or another emotion that is in total contradiction of you trying to MAKE yourself believe something? This for me is the essence of what makes it not materialize no matter what you do or say otherwise. So I think part of it is truly surrendering, trusting and knowing the thing you wish to believe is, and always was. If you cannot surrender, trust or know, then perhaps this is something we (our soul) chooses to experience and work through or master otherwise. Once you believe there is no room for doubt or any other emotion that contradicts this belief.

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Jennifer
21/4/2022 08:47:02

Thanks Tigger. What you are saying completely makes sense. I need to think about this and maybe a certain instance so I can delve deeper into my thoughts. I have always had issues trying to accomplish something and wanting it to happen but can’t get the belief portion. it’s frustrating.

Patrick
21/4/2022 22:59:19

@ Jennifer: You can believe anything you want, there is no "making yourself" believe anything. We choose & chose our beliefs, and we can choose to change them. What you can't often change quickly are FACTS.

Scott R
22/4/2022 19:45:18

Jennifer, tell yourself you want to make it an experiment...try it out and see what happens. Each time you get closer to seeing a pattern, youll get closer to believing its real...

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Renie
21/4/2022 11:09:03

When I learned that in every "present" moment we are actually living out a past thought, it was a game changer for me...

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Pierluigi
22/4/2022 03:11:59

Here a brief video on how the dowsing rods can be used

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbwo0YCpV3E

It's interesting the remarks on the foundamental aspect of being "tuned" to the rods, believing in them and finding if this kind of investigation is made for you or not

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

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Pierluigi
22/4/2022 03:19:11

I have an uncle that was well versed to find water using a dowsing rod wade witha simple tree branch.
He found the water vein in my parents backyard, where we now have our well.
My Father said me that oce he saw my uncle just having his hands harmed while trying to keep the branch stand still agains its own movement.
What's really amazing, nonetheless, is that I almost forgot something significant like this.
It seems that there is a strong vein of "not so conventional skills" in my family, after all...

Have anice day
Pierluigi


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Katherine
22/4/2022 10:54:35

That’s cool, Pierluigi.
When we were kids in the high desert region of Southern California, Mr. McFadden was the well man. I remember watching him witch wells with his sticks. He was never wrong. Another company drilled the well for a neighbor but that well never worked right so the neighbor called old man McFadden who just shook his head, said the well was completely wrong. He witched and drilled a new well that never failed. He was some kind of special to all of us.

Susan
23/4/2022 01:21:33

Try using a Pendulum with a ABC Chart and talk to your guides :-) That's how I started off communicating with spirit years ago. I still do it occasionally. I have a brass one but a Clear quartz crystal is good. My Pendulum always responds very quick and fast :-) Same with Oracle cards. I've been using those for years and I love it when Cards fly out of the deck, magic ;-)

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TH
24/4/2022 01:42:26

Um, interesting article and good analysis...De-wokefication is looong overdue.

https://alt-market.us/taking-away-special-treatment-for-woke-corporations-is-not-authoritarian/

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dominion/mail-in rigging
24/4/2022 13:25:12

Macron wins.... predicted earlier...definitely fixed like the last one.

low turnout

Breaking: Macron re-elected French president with 58.2% of the vote - France 24

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Pierluigi
24/4/2022 17:25:05

I would not say so. No mail vote in France.
Maybe, third time is right time, Miss Le Pen...

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

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Tigger
25/4/2022 13:36:24

I agree @Pierluigi; about 15 minutes before the results were announced I saw a vivid image of Le Pen celebrating her political win and had the biggest grin/smile I have ever seen on her face. I could see the flashing lights and cameras capturing the moment. To me, this is a small glimpse of when it will happen. I also was pleasantly surprised to listen to her speech last night where she said her work wasn't finished and will be looking to the parliament for the next move. I think she is much more aware of her place/role to play, her impact and the timing issue.

When Macron began walking to give his speech I saw in his eyes he knew that he was given this win and has debts to pay/owe for his second term victory. I pitied him (and still do) because I could feel his sadness and the internal struggle or conflict he faces as he sacrificed himself for this moment.

hmm
24/4/2022 14:05:48

@dominion

When the fight is against the rigged media government, vote counters, judges, judicial system, law enforcement which are all controlled by the same person,
Le Pen didn't have a chance to begin with and she knows fighting it won't do squat because again.... when the police, prosecutor, judge and jury are the same person, you lose 100% of the time.

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Renie
26/4/2022 07:46:02

HIGHLY recommend this full-length documentary "Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind: Contact Has Begun" presented by Dr. Steven Greer. It was released a few weeks after the big lockdown began in 2020 and was sadly overlooked. Fabulous footage and photos--you will not be disappointed! Link on Utube and also available on Amazon Prime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyKb-HpYZNs

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Patrick
30/4/2022 10:48:21

Somebody once compared me to this man (I don't know who he is or if he deserves to be insulted by a comparison with me, or vice versa.)

I will watch the video and see who is being maligned.

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Patrick
1/5/2022 11:37:24

I gave up after two minutes and I don't think I ever saw a Steven Greer. If I did and I don't know it, it's probably because he wasn't identified in the short bits I watched.

I gave up because it started off with politicians and a discussion of whether they are revealing what "government" knows. WASTE OF TIME. A subject more tired than a week without sleep.

Overall, the impression I got was, this documentary reinforces the human "thrills & entertainment" aspect of Alien ET visitors, government cover-ups, secret programs, and so on and so forth. A glorified zombie invasion.

Did I judge the book by its cover? Yes, probably.

Renie
1/5/2022 23:07:23

Yes, I agree...the government/politician beginning of the movie was a yawner--LOL! There are many high points throughout and it is actually the opposite of a zombie invasion which is why I liked the movie so much.

It features many videos of sightings throughout the world, some of which were rather impressive. But truly, the main thrust of the movie is that Dr. Greer has been leading groups with the purpose of respectfully establishing contact and inviting the appearance of ET ships/beings. with some very interesting results.

Scott R
26/4/2022 12:06:02

Is Sean Penn the biggest propaganda machine going right now or what? He must be being forced to do this...And how about that Musk has won his bid?

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Patrick
30/4/2022 10:46:46

The stockholders of Twitter are going to get rich, which is why they sold.

I haven't paid attention to Sean Penn in a long time. I remember he went to Venezuela, shot his mouth off and proved he doesn't have a clue BUT does offer lots of not-well-informed opinions.

Pay attention to him at one's own risk & peril. Idiots have free speech rights, too. Yes, I just wrote that Sean Penn is a loud-mouthed asshole.

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Steve
26/4/2022 21:41:26

Control of Twitter should not be left in the hands of 1 man, it's wrong, wrong, wrong, but at least it's not Murdoch ! 😏

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Patrick
30/4/2022 10:40:26

Correct, the control of Twitter should be in the hands (precisely, the fingers) of users. What you are saying Steve is, one person can & should but at the same time cannot & should not own something.

Let's find a way to prevent but allow ownership simultaneously. (Ownership = control is the assumption)

This has been attempted, usually named socialism or communism.

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hypocrisy
27/4/2022 07:37:02

@Steve, well, another example, the Rothschild, 1-man control, owning the biggest propaganda machine, the Reuter and AP etc.
High probability that they are part of HCP's ...no reaction about them but "wokes" react to Musk...

I guess some are more equal than others.

https://www.autistici.org/againstservants/swiss.html

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Linda
28/4/2022 14:17:52

Using simple gematria, the post could also be:

“Doused” in Elon Musk — because meditation =110 and Elon Musk =110 in Simple Gematria. Weird because currently we are doused in Elon Musk!

I wondered about the motivations of EM so I watched a bunch of videos from a YT channel devoted to all news about Elon Musk. It’s called “Elon Musk Zone” and there I found a few interesting videos about Elon Musk’s warnings and dangers about AI (under the video playlist tab) and also a recent video explaining who ends up with how much money as a result of Elon’s buyout of Twitter. That video is called, “Elon Musk just FIRED The Twitter Board! It’s about 9 minutes long. Listen especially at the 5:30 mark and you hear how all the big players landed on their feet quite nicely. Even Rasputin — I mean Jack Dorsey makes almost one billion dollars! Listen to how well it all turned out for them and the big guys will be also on the new board. Vanguard also made a shit-ton of money. Here’s the link…..

https://youtu.be/XWjpnq2mzAA

What the gematria also tells me is:

Doused in = 91
Sophia = 91. (remember EM always warns about AI and Sophia was the AI which received citizenship status in Saudi Arabia).
Palantir =91. Weird because Palantir’s AI is what’s described as “Foundational software of tomorrow delivered today” which is trademarked. Palantir’s stock is also up today last I looked. Elon Musk talks about the importance of merging with AI as a way of humans not being “left behind” in this video by the same YT and also about 8 minutes long:

https://youtu.be/K5LeI7l1_ko

Psy op =91
Social media=91
Deception =91

EM isn’t using and never had used any Nikola Tesla technology— he just used the Tesla name and cache and his company also took government subsidies. I think that was during the Obama administration, but someone can correct me on that if I’m mistaken. But getting back to the gematria….

Doused = Obama
In = made
Meditation = Elon Musk.

Weird how that works. I was reminded of something The Committee recently commented, “ This is the objective, make no mistake. The HCP and their minions are determined to demoralize citizenry.”

Looks to me like Elon Musk and the HCP are setting himself up to be the savior of free speech and counter and it’s weird how the timing coincides with Trumps’s Truth Social platform. 🤔. It’s not a coincidence. Nothing is.

BTW, in my husband’s research Elon only has a B.A. in physics not a BS in physics. Elon’s B.S. degree is in economics. (BA/BS degrees are not the same degrees. The key differences between a Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Science are that a B.A. typically requires more courses in the humanities (writing, art, history, philosophy, or religion) while a B.S. usually has more science and mathematics courses.”). Weird, I heard Elon Musk was this crazy intelligent guy. No engineering degree? No hard science degrees?

Then there’s also the neural link company that Elon Musk owns. And he owns a boring company — as in tunnel making.

We certainly are being doused with Elon Musk. A very big dousing, in fact.

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TV
29/4/2022 11:46:11

Intelligence does not need any degrees!

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Linda
30/4/2022 16:04:49

@TV, I’m glad you think that, because I don’t have any. Too bad you weren’t in charge of hiring when I was applying for the good-paying jobs.

BTW. It’s meaningful to me that Nikola Tesla could do integral calculus in his head! I don’t think EM is on Tesla’s level but perhaps now, after receiving an implant to link his brain and AI and neural linked to AI (the technology he promotes) he can. That whole man-merging with machine (The Singularity he speaks of) isn’t beneficial to humanity, in my humble opinion. I guess I’m one of those EM would say, will be “left behind”. It’s all a matter of perspective.

TV
1/5/2022 14:12:27

@Linda: You are right, I have hired people. My worst hire was a theoretical University Professor, a PhD and a member of Soviet Academy of Sciences. I had no plans to hire him, but he quit his previous position and showed up for work, so I gave him a try. If one had an idea, he questioned from what book one got the idea. The employment did not last for long and he got a professorship in a U.S. university.

Linda
2/5/2022 01:36:20

“I had no plans to hire him, but he quit his previous position and showed up for work, so I gave him a try.”

He quit his job and just showed up? You should have told the interloper to leave. (And I say that as a former Human Resources manager of over 20 years.). Bizarre behavior is bizarre behavior. And most likely you would have IF the interloper was a degree-less nobody. And if the degree-less nobody didn’t leave you might even call the police—for good and obvious reason. It was only his credentials and associations that allowed you to give him the benefit-of-the doubt.

What your story illustrates to me is that people who have degrees, special membership or associations or money or power or celebrity status get treated more favorably and more leniently and therefore can get away with things they otherwise couldn’t.

But getting back to Elon…He says he’s all about free speech and invites his critics to stay on Twitter because that’s what free speech means. Then the next day he bans Bill Gates. Elon Musk gets away with the flip flop and contradiction and nobody even thinks it’s weird or even questions the hypocrisy. After-all he’s the smartest and most wealthy guy in the world. He knows best. He’s even buying Instagram now.

EM is protecting Gates by banning him. Now nobody will see how many real followers Bill Gates has or read any of the free speech postings real Twitter users would be aiming at Bill Gates now without the protection of censorship. Elon Musk did Bill Gates a favor by getting him out of the line of fire. The jokes on us.

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Lorri
2/5/2022 11:41:23

I just looked it up, and apparently Elon Musk did not ban Bill Gates from Twitter.

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Linda
2/5/2022 12:37:01

@Lorri. Yes, you’re right and thank you for the correction. 👍
EM buying Instagram is also not true. That was probably fake news loosely associated with The Rolling Stones article, entitled, “ At This Point Drake Might As Well Buy Instagram”. An article not about anything except normalizing the idea of one person owning social platforms —as if that’s OK and even a good thing.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/drake-instagram-musk-1345383/

TV
2/5/2022 13:52:19

@Linda, you wrote: "people who have degrees, special membership or associations or money or power or celebrity status get treated more favorably and more leniently and therefore can get away with things they otherwise couldn’t" TRUE!

This "interloper" was and is a world famous academic. He is also a Russian and has his way of doing things. He did not show up out of the blue as I had met him previously in a trade show where he came to discuss with me and indicated that his desire to work with me. There is more to the story than what meets the eye and what was in my brief statement. In the end he got a tenure with a highly respected U.S. university, That worked very well and was the right place for him. He kept that position until the end of his working life.

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Pierluigi
2/5/2022 11:41:45

It seems that the new spin in the Russia Ucraine affair is that Russia will declare full mobilitation by 9th May. This could be pretty worrisome, indeed, because if it is true, it means that the initial moves by Russia were not effective enough to reach the estabilished goals.
Nonetheless, Russia now has a pretty firm hold on the dombass region, and has estabilished a corridor to Crimea.

On a different topic, I have bought a couple of dowsing rods on Amazon, made of brass it seems. I've tried them and obtained weird results: asking for "yes" position I had the LEFT rod to rotate clockwise. asking for a "no" position, I had the RIGHT rod to rotate counterclockwise. This happened several times.
I'm very puzzled, I figured out that both rods should respond the simoultaneously, but it seems not the case.
Someone could explain this, please?

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

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Renie
2/5/2022 19:28:25

Pierluigi, each time you use a pendulum (which can also be used for dowsing) you should first establish "yes" and "no" by observing the direction of the swing. I think you have very smart rods as they were working independently of what you expected them to do. Hope you find some buried treasure!

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TV
2/5/2022 20:10:02

@Pierluigi: I wander if your rods behave like that because they seem to be made out of an alloy, rather than a single homogenous copper, But if they behave every time reliably the same way, then fine.

I had never used dowsing rods until I made them out of thick solid copper wire for myself. I did not even try to establish how they worked, or what meant yes and what meant no, before I checked my property for "new energy lines". And they worked very well, the normal expected way, swinging fully apart over their indicated "anomalous" locations reliably every time the "lines" were active.

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TV
2/5/2022 20:38:22

@Pierluigi: In my case I was only looking for an ON or OFF response with the rods, whereas you are looking for a three state response: Yes, No or neutral. What should the expected response with the rods be? I don't even know.

Santanu Acharya
4/5/2022 04:11:26

Can it answer questions like "Will Trump win the election?" with Yes or No ?

Pierluigi
3/5/2022 03:51:22

Further experimentation:
the behavior of the left/right rod is confirmed.
Also, they moved together when I ask for localization of a visualied target, aligning at an angle.
This just had me a little unsettled, I did not expect something like this.

Concerning the material of the rods, I feel like the material is not really so important. Most important is your belief, it seems.

Next step will be a more refined search of hidden objects. I'm still scientifically minded, you know :D :D

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

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Scott R
3/5/2022 15:16:43

I agree with pierlugi, the material isn't as important as the belief.

Pierluigi
3/5/2022 04:18:26

The chinese government is imposing lockdowns so severe (and so futile) that my keen impression is that this politic is really intended to obtain something completely different, also considering that the covid has evolved to a very tame disease.

Is the chinese government trying to deliberately disrupt the supply
chain to harm USA and Europe? If yes, this move seems too double edged, to me. Maybe the reason is another? But what?

Or they are effectively so moronic to think they really can stop the virus in this way?

The Committee has something to offer about this?

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

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Steve
3/5/2022 21:11:41

Corny annual joke day here Again already.!!! Happy Star Wars Day May The 4th be with you ! 😁

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Patrick
4/5/2022 10:59:20

It is an EXCELLENT joke. "I find your lack of faith disturbing."

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Santanu Acharya
3/5/2022 22:06:19

This is exactly what Patrick and TC have been saying for years:

https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story/volcanic-eruptions-may-destroy-ozone-layer-doom-earth-climate-simulation-stuns-scientists-1944796-2022-05-03

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Santanu Acharya
3/5/2022 22:09:20

The news article headline is bit misleading. The simulation found that instead of global cooling it would lead to global warming which is mentioned in the news article:

“We expected intense cooling in our simulations. However, we found that a brief cooling period was overwhelmed by a warming effect," Scott Guzewich of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center said.

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Santanu Acharya
3/5/2022 22:11:49

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2022/flood-basalts-may-warm-climate

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Santanu Acharya
3/5/2022 22:13:22

The actual research paper: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2021GL096612

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TH
4/5/2022 10:57:29

"The immediate cause is a passage in an interview Lavrov had with the Italian TV network Mediaset:

Question: This is how you see it, while Vladimir Zelensky puts it differently. He believes denazification doesn’t make any sense. He is a Jew. The Nazis, Azov – there are very few of them (several thousand). Vladimir Zelensky refutes your view of the situation. Do you believe Vladimir Zelensky is an obstacle to peace?

Sergey Lavrov: It makes no difference to me what President Vladimir Zelensky refutes or does not refute. He is as fickle as the wind, as they say. He can change his position several times a day.

I heard him say that they would not even discuss demilitarisation and denazification during peace talks. First, they are torpedoing the talks just as they did the Minsk agreements for eight years.

Second, there is nazification there: the captured militants as well as members of the Azov and Aidar battalions and other units wear swastikas or symbols of Nazi Waffen-SS battalions on their clothes or have them tattooed on their bodies; they openly read and promote Mein Kampf.
His argument is: How can there be Nazism in Ukraine if he is a Jew?
I may be mistaken but Adolf Hitler had Jewish blood, too. This means absolutely nothing. The wise Jewish people say that the most ardent anti-Semites are usually Jews. “Every family has its black sheep,” as we say.

-Interesting and history-allied take, Lavrov is a very well-versed diplomat, who will not utter garbage for the sake of it, remembering that Russia has vast Nazi documents captured during the liberation of the former USSR.
I am sure that every word he said is supported by documented proof that most Russians are familiar with.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/3/russia-says-israel-supports-neo-nazis-in-row-over-ukraine

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