Conversation with The Committee

19/7/2021

A reader's remarks expanded.
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As I understand it, the life force driving humans is our soul, the energy that comes in and chooses to inhabit our human form.
C:        Your soul does not drive you or any human; your soul is you. You do not choose to inhabit a human form, you remain who you are, expressed in a way, a manner & a body the group of you call human. It is only a costume, a suit & a disguise.

Unlike other creatures (that also have a life energy in them), we have that added bonus of a consciousness, which I guess is the primary reason our souls choose to experience physical (not energetic) life through inhabiting a human body.
C:        No, many forms of life on Earth have a consciousness. Humans cannot detect it easily and have developed the bad habit of labeling other humans with ability to detect it, as crazy. All souls incarnate for the experience yet you all remain completely energetic. The energy of the human body is seen easily in the nervous system, without which the body stops. The energy is inside the atoms of a human body, just as this energy is inside all atoms of everything.

It's been said that the same pool of energetic life forms (souls) can also choose to inhabit other life forms in the universe, and do, and the information shared here indicates that those other life forms are what tweaked the DNA of the creatures we were to genetically engineer those 'improvements / upgrade' to our human function and design.
C:        Yes.

If I'm on track so far, let's keep going.
C:        Your train moves along.

If not, please offer up corrections to the information.
C:        We shall.

Assuming all is accurate so far....
C:        It is.

What was the life force piloting the early humans / homo sapiens / neanderthals?
C:        The same force which is you, you individually and you collectively. Do not confuse the actor with the role, the body with the costume, the disguise with the trickster.

Was it the same soul-consciousness that we have now? Souls from the universe piloting and inhabiting those life forms?
C:        Soul consciousness is redundant thus meaningless. Your soul is timeless and always the same.

Or something else?
C:        This comment comes from the human view. Well done, but we are sorry to inform you that you are much more than a human.

If not the same, was it the engineered changes to humans that brought us up to the level where souls became attracted to the potential experiences to have on Earth as humans?
C:        No. Souls directed the changes before attraction would be possible, because we and you are and were and will always be attracted to what you now live and experience.

If yes, how did that come about? What made individual aspects of the collective soul energies out there decide to give it try?
C: Even though we began our previous answer with a negative reply, we like the question. Collective soul energies mean nothing and you are not out there. We are not out there. You and I are here together. Anytime we communicate we are together with no distance or separation. Souls did not choose to give anything a try, souls chose to create what they did, in order to have it.

I'm trying to imagine a scenario, from a human perspective, and keep it humorous as it relates to our own nature.....
C:        You perform the human perspective so well, you allow it to distort your thinking, and for this we congratulate you. This is what you intended, as do nearly all souls who incarnate as humans. Let’s proceed to your scenario.
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Alien: I think we have this thing done. Check out the improvements! Look at 'em go! These creatures are waaaaaaaay better than they were previously.
C:        What extraterrestrial do you intend to invoke?

Energetic souls watching: Hmmm... that looks interesting.... who wants to pilot one of those things?

A soul stepping up: Here, hold my ethereal beer... I'm going in....
["Hold my beer" is as Texas as it gets folks, and risky. Anytime I might hear that, I clear out.]

The soul that stepped up: Guys, you really need to try this thing out.... you can do some pretty cool fucking stuff with these....it's a commitment though... once you're in, the challenge is to ride it out...

Other souls watching: Daaaammn.... that looks fun...

Alien (current physical life forms watching): Fuuuuuckkk... look what we did..... this could get interesting to watch....
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At what point did individualized energetic consciousness decide the human animals looked like a great experience to have and set the course for what we are today?
C:        When the Earth was created.

What is it that makes it attractive?
C:        Look around you and explain what exists on Earth that is not attractive. Then compare it to what is attractive, good looking or even beautiful, on a weighted average basis. We direct your humble host and scribe to portray scenes of Earth to display this, on this website.

Also, considering the statement that most souls never experience being in a physical life, or at least not experience a human physical life on earth, what makes it non-attractive for most?
C:        The anguish of free will.

Random thoughts on a Monday morning.... thank you all for indulging my questions.
C:        Your thoughts were not random, but we accept that you wish to label them as such. You channeled well.

45 Comments

Lorri

19/7/2021 22:53:19

"Also, considering the statement that most souls never experience being in a physical life, or at least not experience a human physical life on earth, what makes it non-attractive for most?
C: The anguish of free will."

Do they mean the anguish of other people's free will? Like, the free will of another person to inflict all sorts of negative/damaging stuff on another human?

Or do they mean the anguish of having to choose?

I assume the former because they already have free will in Heaven.

Stephen

20/7/2021 01:06:33

I was wondering the same.
I believe all souls have free will already. Therefore, does the anguish arise from having to make choices in the absence of 'full knowledge' while being incarnated?

Patrick

20/7/2021 07:01:32

Great questions Stephen & Lorri. The Committee answers:

"Free will have we all, however the incarnated among us, who live as humans on Earth, have more. You have constraints, limits and barriers which create circumstances Heaven cannot offer.

Anguish can be the result. Most souls prefer avoidance of this, so strong, courageous and brave are you who succeed with this challenge.

Great happiness and unequalled growth also result, happiness on Earth and happiness in Heaven. No other experience for your soul offers what incarnation can; Earth is among the best of the best places to do it."

20/7/2021 07:41:14

@Patrick

So, if I'm reading TC/Yoda right, then it's the "constraints, limits and barriers" that most souls want to avoid.

Me too. ;)

20/7/2021 08:04:09

@ Lorri: Did any human incarnate against her/his will? Or...we accept that it was voluntary —that we do it on purpose— but things could be better.

We all chose this, all of us, without exceptions.

The heartfelt desire(s) to:
• change course
• reverse wrongs
• go back & re-decide

all for "better" outcomes, are the precise and very reason we're here. Frustration, dissatisfaction and disgust are the value and benefit we come to have. To think otherwise is the goal.

20/7/2021 11:33:18

Yes, I believe we fools choose this.

However, why is it that so many near-death stories involve some people saying they were given a choice to stay in Heaven or return to Earth, and some people who say they weren't given any choice at all - they were simply told it wasn't their time?

I assume that it really was their choice, but that the voice telling them it wasn't their time was echoing the choice that corresponds with their life plan.

20/7/2021 16:25:42

@ Lorri: We are NOT foolish for choosing human life; to the contrary, we're smart, brave and courageous. We reap enormous rewards from the opportunity & experience to truly believe we're fools. We most certainly are not. None of us is, not a one.

21/7/2021 02:04:56

@Patrick

I'm joking. Pretty much. Mostly. ;)

Scott R

20/7/2021 13:39:48

I got it a little more bluntly...most souls don't want to incarnate because they don't want to go through the crap we live through in these lives. And that their are some souls in heaven that have never heard of incarnation just as there are people on Earth who have never heard the concept of church...Lorri, my guess is that they are at their personal exit point but are being asked if they want to stay and do more...

Scott2

20/7/2021 14:12:33

@scottr personally I think get rid of all religion everyone would be better off. I certainly understand why some spirits don't want to deal with the crap but at the same time there's value in incarnation.

20/7/2021 16:35:23

@ Scott2: If you truly had the ability to eliminate religion, you would never do it. No beliefs are worth having, when eliminating them for and among other people. Acceptance of other beliefs are what create our own, and preserve for ourselves the ones we prefer.

Religion serves an extremely valuable purpose, both through positive AND negative aspects we perceive religions to have, whether participant or observer.

20/7/2021 16:49:38

@Patrick yeah maybe religion has some good things but whenever I hear about children being abused by the church or graves found on residential schools for indigenous people from yrs gone by that's when my feelings of dislike for religion start to appear.

21/7/2021 10:36:30

@ Scott2: Those things are not religion; criminal & anti-social behaviors are carried out inside and under the cover of institutions and the hierarchies built around them, be it employer, gang, team, social club, agency or church.

20/7/2021 16:31:26

"No" says The Committee, "most souls do not incarnate because the space is limited, the opportunities far fewer than are the available places. Yes, many souls prefer other ways and methods of achieving growth but they are not the majority. Many souls incarnate in other places, ways and forms, unrelated to Earth human existence, including incarnation on Earth as many different animals.

@ both Scott R and Lorri: When a person describes a near death experience and the offer to return home, s/he is remembering how her/his GAGs outlined the soul's plan. The choice is ALWAYS made by the soul, never anyone else, NEVER.

The idea a person returned because s/he had to, is part of the very illusion the soul wants, needs and desires for her or his purpose.

22/7/2021 18:19:39

Aww...ok...

Gary

20/7/2021 15:58:22

@Patrick. What if we stopped caring about the "constraints, limits and barriers"? For instance if one was unemployed and was trying to get employed/reemployed and couldn't because of certain constraints, limits and barriers but tried very hard to get a gig ... this person felt a certain degree of emotional distress, misery and hopelessness. Then one day said f*ck it, I don't care what happens anymore and is ready to face all consequences of unemployment without much feeling of anguish, misery and hopelessness. So this person with no job now couldn't pay for anything, lost his/her home, car, etc, etc and etc but didn't feel anything about it anymore. Would this person have a straight ticket back to heaven because he/she refused to feel anything anymore ... there were no more lessons to be learned for this individual because no matter what happened to him/her the feeling was the same ... nothingness.

20/7/2021 16:39:35

Respondeth The Committee: "Almost no such human exists. What you describe occurs only after a soul returns home. Humans do not turn off emotions, habits and life plans in the ways you describe. It is not within the human capability to disable emotion and feeling in the such ways. When circumstances and challenges present themselves in such a way that desire to do so arises, humans typically anesthetize themselves with substances in ways deemed abusive and harmful."

20/7/2021 18:38:07

"humans typically anesthetize themselves with substances in ways deemed abusive and harmful."

Very true ... good answer.

Jennifer

20/7/2021 20:07:42

If I were to stop worrying so much about things, like if I can pay my bills, if I will find love again, if I can beat some of my vices (or just live with them)..........should I have faith that God will always find a way for me? Or do I have faith my guides will always help me? Or do I hope Ive made a good life plan?

Where should my faith and belief lie? I understand I must constantly make the effort to improve my life. Sometimes I can’t do any more than I already am and don’t see a way to survive always.

21/7/2021 09:07:55

Says The Committee: "You will always find a way for yourself, God or the greater good of souls, which is the same thing, will not do this, you do it. They will all help, however. God and good are two forms of the same word. The word all of the human language English, and other related languages, is a version of the Arabic word for God.

From this collective, of which you are an integral part & component, you will see your way, if you look then venture forth.

You have made a good life plan, that you ask the question is proof. Your faith and belief already lie in the right place they should. That you ask is proof. You are surviving, you do not require a way to see it. Consider your definition of survival, and you will see you succeed quite well."

hmm

21/7/2021 08:17:30

A question for TC, according to the article below, the original virus came from Fort Detrick, US .... cuz in the summer of 2019, espiratory disease that caused pneumonia erupted in Virginia which the authorities put the lid on ... so was Fort Detrick involved and is it true that covid virus already existed in Virginia, 2019?

"Beijing renews its call for Fort Detrick biolab probe as 4.7 million Chinese petition WHO to search in US for Covid origins
The Chinese foreign ministry has backed calls for an investigation into the Fort Detrick biolab as an origin of the Covid-19 pandemic after 4.7 million Chinese petitioned the WHO to send experts to the Maryland facility.

Speaking on Wednesday, foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said that the Chinese people had delivered a clear message in signing a petition, created by state-run news agency The Global Times, calling for a World Health Organization (WHO) investigation into the Fort Detrick biolab.

“In less than five days, about five million people participated. The rising numbers represent the aspirations of the Chinese people and show their anger at some people in the US for political manipulation through the issue of traceability,” he stated.

The foreign ministry spokesman said that the responsibility to investigate their own lab must lie with the US. He claimed that reports of an unknown respiratory disease that caused pneumonia in Virginia in summer 2019 and the decision to terminate some operations at the Maryland biolab was suspicious and worthy of a probe.

In 2019, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a “cease and desist order” to halt operations at the germ lab amid safety concerns. Zhao also cited a large-scale outbreak of e-cigarette disease in Wisconsin that same year.
As of Wednesday morning, around 4.7 million Chinese citizens have signed the petition which calls on the WHO to investigate the US lab as a potential origin for the Covid-19 pandemic.

The petition was launched last week as WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus blasted Beijing for failing to provide the raw data from the early days of its spread in China. “We owe it to the millions who suffered and the millions who died to know what happened,” he said...."
https://www.rt.com/news/529811-china-covid19-us-biolab-who/

21/7/2021 09:13:55

Says The Committee: "Yes, the virus was taken from the China lab to this military base. As we have explained several times, the release in China was intentional, seemingly accidental to the people who were fooled and tricked into allowing it to escape. The virus was released also in Europe, Italy specifically, to spread it through and into the USA, yet allow China to take the blame. In reality, no one country or officials of & from that country acting on behalf of national interest, are responsible. The creation and release of the virus were a global operation, and several nations are involved, the true perpetrators transnational in nature, scope & act.".

Kyle

21/7/2021 10:00:57

Will these true perpetrators ever be revealed ?

21/7/2021 10:26:56

Nope

21/7/2021 23:14:38

So has all hope gone to stop the HCP's and NWO ?
Three Australian states are now in lockdown and the agenda seems to be take the vaccine, wear a mask and we MIGHT stop the lockdowns.
Total BS of course !!

Pierluigi

22/7/2021 04:39:42

Dear kyle,
As humans, we are unable to stop the hcps. But there are inhuman workings in place that will smash their plans to smitereens in about 10 years or less.
Our goal is to see that workings and avoid to have our plans and hopes similarly smashed in the meantime.

Have a nice day
Pierluigi

22/7/2021 06:46:02

Thanks Pier

But things have to be fixed way sooner than that Australian politicians are going hardball now and locking us up on very few cases, can’t go on much longer with this BS. Take Care Would love to get back to your country again but Govt has banned international travel until the end of 2022

Saint Irene

22/7/2021 09:26:29

@Kyle--Sending you and your fellow Aussie's light during this "lock down"...keep your faith and use this down-time to your advantage...

22/7/2021 11:53:30

@ Kyle: The Australian solution is likely to be found at the ballot box. If voters favour a candidate for political office who commits to a different course of action, assuming such candidates are willing and allowed to mount a campaign, Aussies can change course.

This has happened in Texas and we're not unique or special in The Lone Star State, but for our attitudes, approach & reactions. (Other Texas readers frequent this site, without checking with them I can assure you, independent of their political proclivities, they will confirm this.) Mr. Biden was bold, brash & nasty enough to insult the Texas Governor and most of in this great state, by calling him a caveman (I believe the statement said Neanderthal thinking) when all mandates, orders & commands were lifted about five months ago. Predictions of mass deaths were offered from many quarters but none came true, none. Most Texas citizens and residents were ignoring the instructions anyway.

Example: air travel has rebounded so strongly that worker shortages are causing flight cancellations across the USA.

The Texas population is about 15% larger than that of “Oz” and many similarities exist (but for size!) with large rural areas, big cities, arid or desert-like areas, others lush and green, extensive seashore, climate, etc. Texas has mountains and oil like you would not believe, is well armed and economically vibrant compared to most of the United States. Maybe these factors helped make the difference but the power to refuse, to reject compliance remains with the people, if we will listen and act differently.

@ Pierluigi: We have the complete power to halt the HCPs dead in their tracks, well before events come to pass that smash their schemes to smithereens. Taking back from them our power which has been both voluntarily ceded and also secretly ripped from us, is easy and can begin to happen tomorrow if the people of Planet Earth want it. The idea of this website is to plant the seed. Even if the tree of freedom doesn’t germinate and grow, the seed has been planted. This alone is possibly the biggest step forward for mankind overall, even if for now only a tiny, miniscule handful of us know.

Kyle Shields

22/7/2021 22:08:54

Thanks for your words Saint_Irene

Patrick
Unfortunately both sides of the political landscape are pushing the same agenda, the only way they will stop lockdowns is getting 80% of population vaccinated.

23/7/2021 10:29:46

Yes, both sides push the same goal and WE THE PEOPLE share that goal, because WE THE PEOPLE put them into power, obey them, we rinse out the halls of government we create, then we repeat VOLUNTARILY.

Good government fears the citizenry. The entire world outside the USA, and fair sized segments portions within the USA also, think most Americans are nuts because we have firearms, but the pandemic is showing why.

Force medications today, force gas chambers tomorrow.

21/7/2021 12:38:30

Thank you to hmm for posting this article--and thank you to Patrick and TC for the eye-opening description on how the HCP's carry out their crimes against humanity. The Shift gets shiftier by the minute!

22/7/2021 11:54:07

More to come. 🙂😮🙃

Magic Mike

21/7/2021 14:34:38

So I just had to share this UFO video I watched the other day. It’s 1:11 long but it made me think of those pictures Patrick has shared before where a UFO Craft is flying along with a cardboard cutout of a plane on its side.

https://youtu.be/kDiSP3nzPR4

22/7/2021 10:11:32

Reminds me of a mother goose followed by her gaggle of goslings!

22/7/2021 12:29:09

Hi Patrick I was just curious about dimensions as relates to the spirit world and the physical world. I was told recently when I'm on Sirius i travel between the 9th and 11th dimensions and was just curious but don't we have to work to attain access to dimensions thanks.

22/7/2021 15:54:51

When I finish the archives, you'll find a section there on dimensions. Stand fast.

Allen

22/7/2021 16:07:34

The whole thing about dimensions feels like a similar discussion to higher selves, lower selves, all your selves, nothing but oneself, nothing higher or lower, we are one and complete and intact.

I understand what we consider three dimensions and our 3D existence. Trying to define 4th, 5th, 9th, eleventy-hundredth.... I can't wrap my head around it because we don't knowingly experience anything right now other than our 3D world.

Beyond that, it sounds like a bunch of semantics and varying opinions on what 'exists' and what they mean. Also, it doesn't really seems relevant to our here-and-now.

This is the game we signed up to play (3D existence on Earth), we're fully immersed in it, and are navigating our way through as best as we all can. Trying to decipher and / or define other dimensions.... it feels like the discussions of trying to define and separate (or rather, keep it all together) aspects of ourselves and our total existence.

22/7/2021 16:33:05

@allen yeah my understanding of dimensions is foggy at best but from anything I've heard it's like we can access the dimensions but we need to work on ourselves and raise our vibration or consciousness than we can reach that dimension we're trying to get into.

23/7/2021 10:16:14

@ Allen:
“… we don't knowingly experience anything right now other than our 3D world.”

Oh yes we do! You have dreams, don’t you? In what dimension do they take place? Ever had one where you were flying off a seaside cliff, then dropping like a stone but suddenly you came to a stop right before the water? Anything unusual ever happen in a dream that seemed like it could never happen in “real” life?

“…..discussions of trying to define and separate (or rather, keep it all together) aspects of ourselves and our total existence.”

This website over the past 8 years, well described.

@Scott@: Nobody raises their vibrations. That's a side effect, a symptom or an indicator of what really goes on. Any human can enter any dimension at any time because we're always in every dimension, already. The difference is, can we see them? Small Earth surface examples: ultraviolet and infrared light. We can't see them, but they exist.

23/7/2021 15:18:34

I just watched this interview with DAVID ADAIR - I never heard about this guy - he is either a genius or a big liar - maybe both! Do you know this man Patrick?

https://youtu.be/M0wBXNAiOys

23/7/2021 15:51:40

I neither know him nor of him. Does he mention my name in the video? Yes or no, I thank you for either the compliment or insult. 🤪
(The Committee tells me it's no insult, and to knock off the sarcasm.)

23/7/2021 16:01:43

Patrick, he doesn't mention you but I think you would enjoy the interview - he invented the world's fastest rocket when he was still a teenager - some fascinating stories, he tells!

23/7/2021 23:30:05

@ET--Cool video--I have seen a couple of other videos of guys with similar stories like his--young, highly gifted, scooped up by the military, turned into super soldiers, etc. These are very compelling stories, indeed...

Candy

25/7/2021 16:44:50

@ET
Wow! What a cool video. I totally think he is a genius! Gut feeling that he is not a liar😃😉

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