Thanks for a very insightful posting, to which I have some comments and questions:
1. TC: "Extraterrestrial visitors will reveal ... only when humans ask for this in sufficient number."
QUESTION: What is a sufficient number?
I argue that we are very quickly reaching that "sufficient" number which I assume is >50%. It is not relevant to argue that people unaware also would think they are "saviours". As TC stated: A majority are unaware of their presence.
2. TC: "The bigger concern is violation of the prime directive."
COMMENT: This violation is long broken as ET races has already infiltrated and duped human society. The craziness of the world is not only because of our primitive minds, but because we are loyal to our governments, feeding us an agenda, that is not in the best interest of mankind. UFO flying around with 1000s of observations maybe daily, wanting to be seen, is an obvious signal that they want to push disclosure sooner than later. One could ask, why?
3. TC: If along come two plus two makes ten, the human database will be nearly instantly consulted; the response says the calculation is wrong.
COMMENT: Only 10 people understand that 1+1 = 10. For a large part of human intelligence, this is not only a definitive fact, but crucial for us to even communicate.
4. TCs long comment regarding heaven as an "ascended" location in a dreamstate is a play with words as the topic of ascension, shift, event, 5D, new earth, rapture, return of christ consciousness has been a theme in human literature and more for hundreds of years in thousands of sources. I clearly assume TC knows all of this.
QUESTION: TC argues that this is wrong. Where does this mass-delusion come from?
5. TC: "Your mind is not your brain, which is constructed according to the design, blueprint, materials and methods provided for in DNA. Your mind uses the brain to operate the body... DNA is your body only, not your mind."
COMMENT: I never argued that. I argued that the ascension event would awaken what scientist label "junk DNA" and give our bodies new abilities.
I have been actively reseaching this "Ascension Event /5D shift" for the last 8 years - more or less ever since I discovered the amendment site with much joy. That such an event EXIST is definitive. Most likely a million times over and over again in the presence of the Multiverse.
The question is of course if it is relevant to our current time in history, the very narrow gap of our own existence. The signs of times right now on all levels indicates we are in this time gap. I believe my initial question was framed in a way TC clearly understood this topic and my question, as they have already seen this many times from their own perspective. Thus, I am slightly surprised to the cat and mouse play with words that followed.
Different views aside, I am very grateful for the time taken from both Patrick and TC for the thorough reply.
Marcus aka Mr Yang.
1. My misunderstandings: "...It is not relevant to argue that people unaware also would think they are 'saviours'." Who are "they", the saviours or "people unaware"?
The Committee says: A majority of the people to be affected, generally adults. The concept of adult voter registration used by humans is what applies, however not the same precise way. The extension, reach or scope of effects and the people within that range who will be materially affected, are the criteria. One visitor meeting with ten humans for ten minutes is most different compared to ten visitors, their vessel and a week-long stay with interaction.
2. "...ET races has already infiltrated and duped human society." Says The Committee: No, extraterrestrials cannot infiltrate, they must present themselves on Earth as they are and say what they intend to give or to have. This has been done. If anyone has been duped, humans have done it to themselves by means of fear, misunderstanding, ignorance but mostly for political power over other humans.
The Committee also says: "The world is less crazy now than at any time in human history. The difference today with such perception is incomplete history and data mixed with an enormously recent increase in lights, camera, action and screens for display.
"Only 10 people understand that 1+1 = 10. For a large part of human intelligence, this is not only a definitive fact, but crucial for us to even communicate." I do not understand this.
4. "...is a play with words." The Committee says: No. We never play with words. You have read our selection of them; you disagree. Offer your words, explanations and views, also.
The Committee also says: All human mass delusions come from the same patterns of human behavior. Why did humans once believe that smoking cigarettes was not just health neutral but potentially beneficial for respiratory function? Why do humans believe President Biden of the USA was legitimately elected? The examples are endless.
5. "... the ascension event would awaken what scientist label 'junk DNA' and give our bodies new abilities." The Committee says: No such thing as junk DNA exists. The entirety of human DNA serves a purpose; no expendable portion of human genetic code can be disposed of.
The Committee also says: New bodily ability is not new mental ability, understanding or intelligence.
The Committee closes by saying: The occurrence is a process, not an event. It happens now. This discussion could well be considered a part of it.
"...TC clearly understood this topic and my question, as they have already seen this many times from their own perspective."
What is clear to you might not be to a blind person. We believe we understood but that means, in human language, interpretation. If our interpretation does not match another, this would still be clear but not aligned.
"....I am slightly surprised to the cat and mouse play with words that followed."
The Committee says: We are not playing with words, or as might physically do such animals.
Thanks for comments.
I am amused by the self-irony of the TC. Either they or you don't want to understand OR they really have no clue of what I want to convey. The latter means, I am bad in explaining and let's leave it at that.
1+1 = 10 in binary.
For binary computer systems, ah HA! That's right BUT humans think in better, slower (...much slower by way of mouth , pen, pencil and/or keyboard) but far more complex ways than machines.
I disagree personally that your explanations or questions are bad; in fact, they're very good.
The Committee understands everything a human communicates and if their responses are good evidence, understood you well. They offered a different view and explanation; they disagreed.
Time will tell if extraterrestrial visitors to Earth arrive and carry, convert or stimulate significant percentages of the human population to activate latent DNA which shall place them/us on a "higher plane".
Hoax mission....dunno....they lie about everything else, so wouldn't surprise me...
'No proof' US landed on moon – Ex-Russian space boss
The former head of Russia’s Roscosmos space agency, Dmitry Rogozin, has expressed doubt that the US Apollo 11 mission really landed on the Moon in 1969, saying he has yet to see conclusive proof.
In a post on his Telegram channel on Sunday, Rogozin said he began his personal quest for the truth “about ten years ago” when he was still working in the Russian government, and that he grew skeptical about whether the Americans had actually set foot on the Moon when he compared how exhausted Soviet cosmonauts looked upon returning from their flights, and how seemingly unaffected the Apollo 11 crew was by contrast.
Rogozin said he sent requests for evidence to Roscosmos at the time. All he received in response was a book featuring Soviet Cosmonaut Aleksey Leonov’s account of how he talked to the American astronauts and how they told him they had been on the Moon."
Thanks for link, I will watch it with interest tonight.
I have come to the conclusion that government lie about everything and thus moon-landing being a fake show seems relevant. However, in the deepest interest, I don't know if it is really important, as many other things are more obvious and most likely affecting our daily lives far more (lock-downs, jabba and the pharmas, shit schools, brainwashed media, poisoned foods, etc.)
Apollo 11 needed a lot of fuel to decent and then to take off...... some calculation that it would need around 20 tons of fuel, which is a huge tank.....
and then we have the Van-Allen belt with the intense radiation and temperature fluctuations..
the moon has no wind, air, or practically having no atmosphere (exosphere) there will be no weather disturbance or storm in the moon....the planted flag was swaying in space, despite a vacuum space....
....and they have to beg Russia for rides to the ISS space station ....
2023 − 1969 ≠ 34⁴⁶. The answer is simple and makes me wonder why this topic is being discussed more than a half century later.
The Committee says "Humans indeed landed on your not-so-natural satellite but the television images broadcast were false. The majority of information about the arrival of human vessels, observations of and on the surface and during human departure, have been concealed."
I was a believer until I read David McGowan's book, "Wagging the Moondoggie" on that HOAX. It is extremely compelling. But I will say this: trying to get a Boomer to even consider the fact it never happened is even harder than getting normies to consider 9/11 and COVID in the same light. In fact, it often results in immediate, irrevocable end of communications.
For me the big question is not how they got there (if they did so) but more so how did they manage to get back?
Part one of his book. The PDF of the whole thing seems to be hard to find now.
Stanley Kubrick leaked it in an old youtube clip. They had a movie set in Hollywood they faked the whole thing.
You can fake a lot of things in a movie set, BUT you cannot fake absence of gravity, especially when sand is involved.
The footages I've seen reveal that the location had low gravity and no air. You cannot build a set with this characteristics on earth, because creating a huge space without air will face the eneormous pressure of the atmosphere, it would simply be crushed.
Sand disturbed in the footage follow a ballistic trajectory, and no swirling of sand is present (this means no air at all).
I would like to ask the Committè which part of that footage was falsified, to what purpose.
Have a nice day
Yes we landed on the moon on July 20, 1969. If we hadn't, pretty sure Neil or Buzz would have said something about that by now. They have talked about aliens in the past, something our government would rather they hadn't. At the same time that was happening we had a movie set built in Texas just in case some wanna be movie star aliens showed up unexpectedly into the frame of the camera lens set up on the Moon. All I'm telling you came from our partner in crime, Erik Medhus of Channeling Erik.
Coincidental or not, just recently former head of Russia Space Agency, Dmitry Rogozin, said this in his Telegram Group:
"Ten years ago, when I was working in the Government, I sent an official request to Roscosmos to provide me with documentary evidence of Americans on the Moon available to this federal agency at that time. I was too embarrassed by the fact that Soviet cosmonauts returning from multi-day expeditions could barely stand on their feet and underwent a long recovery after such flights, and the Americans got out of their lunar spacecraft like cucumbers from the garden."
Apollo 11 mission time: 8 days.
American astronauts who looked "fresh from the garden didn't go on the space mission, obviously. Astronauts certainly did, from both the USA and USSR but nobody saw film footage of the former.
TC: "The majority of information about the arrival of human vessels (on the moon), observations of and on the surface and during human departure, have been concealed."
"pretty sure Neil or Buzz would have said something about that by now" The astronauts have their gagging orders.
@Americans landed on the moon in Hollywood...
Dude, no one wants to go round and round about this, the Committee will always get the last word. If you want to buck that, go with God, the rest of us are done with it.
Hollywood, apologize if I took your comment wrong...
TC: "Mankind’s most recent three centuries of human events offer occurrences which can objectively be described as MONUMENTAL. Spain and Great Britain’s colonies lost, the Spanish bacterial Flu which was not a virus, the USA’s Civil War, the Turkish and British Empires, the rise and fall of Communism, the two world wars, the occupation of Japan, the industrialization of China, the coronavirus manipulation and the rise of a great commercial and military power approaching dominance once exercised during Atlantis.
THE ABOVE EVENTS ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT IN COMPARISON WITH THE BEGINNINGS NOW UNDERWAY; this is the reason you feel what happens now so. It is more than a shift of thinking, being and living; the alterations now coming to Earth are the arrival of a great opportunity."
COMMENT: So, something is coming that has no comparison to 300 years of change of society, can loving and caring TC expand on this? I don't want to know WHEN, more of WHAT. Because me saying we are talking about UFO disclosure on a large scale feels insignificant compared to their wording. Any unveiling they can present will not alter the coming of mankind, I promise :)
Marcus, I believe they are referring to the geophysical events that are on the horizon, which will in turn offer opportunity for spiritual growth.
If it is, it must be the end of the world if the combined global events of the last 300 years is are insignificant in comparison. I translate it as 10 x of all natural disasters and more in one big swoop.
Wow! But my feeling is that this "mega-event" gets stuck in semantics when asking TC.
It is not the end of the world, it is the end of an era.
"...can loving and caring TC expand on this? I don't want to know WHEN, more of WHAT."
The Shift, discussed and described here in voluminous detail.
Marcus, I was going through my saved files looking for something else, but when I read this part I thought of this current discussion.
Humanity and the spirit world are one and the same. The advantages of understanding who you are, of what you are a part and your chosen place & roles speak for themselves.
A rise in awareness is a universe wide collective effect, known to have been coming, offering different and unique effects in each place.
We are living through the rise in awareness we all anticipated before incarnation, many roles and challenges within this rise planned by us.
The results are displayed, in part, daily across headlines the world over.”
Wow this sounds eminently fascinating from 2022
The 1,000-light-year-wide cosmic bubble around Earth
The Milky Way is blowing a star-forming bubble, and we’re in the middle of it.
Think “bubbles,” and you may think “soap” or “gum.”
But not Catherine Zucker, currently a Hubble Fellow at the Space Telescope Science Institute and a former researcher with the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. Zucker’s interest in bubbles is cosmic. And she and her collaborators have found new insights about a bubble in which our solar system sits.
Astronomers have long known about the 1,000-light-year-wide Local Bubble. In a new paper published Jan. 12 in Nature, Zucker and her co-authors describe it as “a cavity of low-density, high-temperature plasma surrounded by a shell of cold, neutral gas and dust.” But for years, astronomers were in the dark beyond that. The history of the Local Bubble, even its size, remained unknown.
Not anymore. Zucker and her team became accidental historians when, starting work on a different project, they found instead a kind of creation story of our local stellar neighbourhood, and provided robust confirmation of the assumption that supernovae — the explosions of dying stars — lead to the birth of other stars. This happens when the blown-out materials recombine elsewhere due to the force of gravity.
"bubble around Earth" sounds similar to the idea Earth was the center, that the sun and planets revolved around us.
Patrick, This post brought up a couple questions:
“Your mind is not your brain …Your mind uses the brain to operate the body”
So, what is the mind and what is the relationship between your mind and your soul?
Does the mind reside in the brain or elsewhere”
Often we hear the expression “the light within.” Just what is the light within?
▶ The mind and soul are the same thing; like a pail and a bucket.
▶ The mind interfaces with the brain, in the way a human interfaces with the computers and applications which in turn operate the plane.
▶ The light within refers to the brilliance of a person's soul, something we humans don't see most of the time. Some of us can, this is described as ability to see the aura or countenance surrounding a living thing.
I'm reading a article about kathy griffin having panic attacks and suffering ptsd from a few yrs ago her picking on trump. Lol don't attack our president and we won't attack you in return 🤔.
I know very little about this, but unfortunately her severed head stunt was juicy enough for a sufficient number of shitbag merchants who masquerade under "journalism" (which nowadays more than likely means opinion prostitution) to ensure I saw it. I would expect difficulties Kathy Griffin has faced are more complicated than simply critical backlash. My sympathies for her and hopes she feels better soon, and that she and others who might emulate such stunts think through the consequences and effects before making what hopefully will be a well-informed decision. People have the right to express disgusting ideas, attitudes and images but there is no right to absence of consequences.
@Patrick true Patrick I just thought it was funny how she's crying the blues about her having ptsd related to trump when she probably didn't have any objections to that stunt she pulled regarding trump.