Hi Patrick tc says it's irrelevant and meaningless to know about there lives. But is that because most people either don't know or aren't interested to know of our true history as a species. It just seems odd to me that any part of our history would be considered irrelevant or meaningless because if that's the case than a post like this wouldn't matter because nobody would be interested in the subject.
Interest and relevance are two very different things. It doesn't serve us any purpose or benefit to know about these things BUT it is entertaining for the people interested.
There are other as-of-yet relatively unknown, undiscovered things from human history much more worth our interest, such as Atlantis.
Shall we have a session on Atlantis?
@Patrick I understand what you're saying Patrick I just meant that I think all parts are our history have some degree in relevance otherwise what's the point of being human beings and everything that goes along with it.
My interest in this topic is more aligned with the soul aspect. As us 'human' creatures were designed / created for the needed tasks, seems like just as now there has to be that 'life force' involved. We think of that 'spark' as the soul that is piloting / driving the body.
It's been mentioned that a human body can't live / exist without being inhabited by a soul energy. So, that said.... what inspired souls to to decide to try out and test drive this new being? And then stay with it and inspiring billions of souls over the ages to jump in for the ride? Simply the experience and adventure?
Back-tracking.... how was it determined that souls would be inhabiting these creatures initially, why, and then continuing to do so?
Not sure if my question is making sense. I'm not so interested in what their life was like, but more so - if that's the beginning of human creation - what inspired souls to jump into that journey initially in earth?
@ Allen: Yes, for the experience and adventure, and that has been the case from the very beginning. It still is, for everyone.
The determination was made by each individual soul. For example, you have heard of stillborn babies; the soul changes its mind and no replacement steps forward. The parents and the baby plan the life together before any of the three are alive.
The "Annunaki" knew, as do all alien ETs who have advanced to interstellar space travel, what the soul is and its meaning to a body, and they understood there would likely be souls who would incarnate. They understood if none chose to become a new physical being on Earth, none of the created organisms would survive. We humans, for the most part, heavily and vehemently deny this is possible.
Let me get this straight, ET (aka Annunaki among ET enthusiasts) came to plunder gold from earth. Due to their physical requirement, eg they were used to a much shorter biological daily cycle (of 6 hours), they bred a hybrid mining animal (aka homo sapien) to do the mining, by genetically engineered neanderthals. Several thousand (4,000) mining animals were produced for the task.
After 30 years, 90% of gold on Earth was removed (from South Africa), and the Annunaki were about to take home their loot. The original plan was to leave behind some caretakers until the mining animals die off naturally. That wouldn't take too long, as their shelf-life was only around 40 years.
Other ET's found out about this mining venture and were dismayed about the fate of the newly created breed of 'improved neanderthals'. So they came and spent 300 hundred years improving the breed, partly because the original version was too stupid to survive on its own. They even sent teachers (aka gods to the unemployed mining animals) to teach survival skills to the improved homo sapiens.
All that was about 300,000 years ago. Earth had been largely protected from further outside intervention since then. (ET coming to lead Moses out of Egypt was a rare exception.)
(1) Humanity will expire in another 1,500 years. There are other ET breeds that have evolved for several million years, eg the Pleiadians. Is this because of the inherent limitation of homo sapiens, ie we will reach the limit of our development potential by then?
(2) I read (from Dolores Cannon) that other ET's crashed landed on Earth years ago, and we may also have other ET DNA from inter-breeding with those ET's. Is this true, do we have other ET DNA in addition to the further improvement introduced in the first 300 years of our breed's history?
Not plunder, which means to rob on a massive scale that which belongs to another group. To whom did gold "belong" on Earth, elephants, chimpanzees or whales? Mining was the process and it was done in the least invasive way possible, to not destroy the natural environment, so that it would restore itself in a brief a time as possible. The "Annunaki" contacted the nearby civilizations and told them of their plan, before starting.
More than just a different day & night cycle was involved; all Earth surface conditions together were a problem. The combinations of sunlight, temperature, humidity, dust, pollen, bugs and bacteria made it all but impossible to remain on the surface.
The gold was taken home often, as soon as a load was ready. The delivery trip was made thousands of times. It was not loot, it was a mineral to be used for a specific physical purpose. Would we humans consider an herbal medicine "loot"?
Not shelf-life, lifespan. They did not sit unused and stored, waiting for an expiration date.
The alien ETs from our star cluster already knew about it; the masters of the same "Annunaki" were the ones who were unhappy, it was THEY who decided NOT to let the first humanoids die off.
The DNA was upgraded among more than a dozen alien ET contributors, and stupidity was not an issue. That word only applies when an arrogant, condescending being dislikes the perceived unintelligent act and wishes to insult it because it believes ITS intelligence is superior. The use of the word stupidity suggests maybe not as superior as preferred.
100,000 years or 1,000 centuries.
GAGs led the Egyptians out, not alien ETs.
1. Not inherent limitation but desire to evolve beyond constant destruction.
"Not inherent limitation but desire to evolve beyond constant destruction"
So in 1500 years we evolve to the fifth dimension, got it now 10 years is definitely optimistic.
We will be able to trascend in just 1500 years, as a species?
So, we are really fast at learning, it seems!
And I'm not sarcastic, at all.
Just consider theat this si s the third attempt, we had to endure two hard resets until now (lemurian got wiped out by a meteor, the Atlantideans just got the Earth crust to almost explode, and for good measure, a comet hit the northen america, unleashing a 1500 years long ice age...)
So, we just was able to go up the ladder, from the floor of the stone age until present in just 6000 years, and next milestone floor is 1500 years from now. We covered 4/5 of the road, it seems.
Just a question: did the Atlantideans were aware of the fact that a global advanced civilization was there on Earth before them?
We are just uncovering now proofs of the Atlantidean remanants, and the lemurians are pretty lost for good... But maybe 25000 years ago, some remains of lemurians could have been discovered by the Atlantideans...
Sometimes I wonder what kind of civilization was Atlantis: what kind of philosopy, arts, political ideas, religion they would have had... the stone remains are still beautiful, like the variosu pyramids, the walls, the cities, or the sepapheum of Saqquara... but also the stones are so bare... I wonder how their songs would be like...
Have a nice day
‘how was it determined that souls would be inhabiting these creatures initially, why, and then continuing to do so? ‘
Hi Allen, I understand your Q in context ‘ why was physical body chosen as design’ instead of slower consciousness (whether organic/inorganic material). Maybe there was a need for intelligence & reacting/adapting to the tasks & environment which early design of humanoid brain & body fulfilled. ETs designed & construct an amazing original humanoid central processing unit with the physiological & all the other systems. Wow wee .
We are The Founders. We are the keepers of the flame. We are your ancestors in a very real sense, and you are our progeny. So our journeys are intertwined for all of eternity. We cannot be separated from you, nor you from us.
But there is a way to limit the amount of influence that you have over us and that we have over you. You can deny our existence. You can pretend that you are alone and that you have no help, no support. You will not be served by that denial, but it is a choice.
Definition often contains within it a particular frequency. Our definition of who we are as the keepers of the flame is meant to trigger something within you. It is meant to bring you back to the knowing of yourselves as eternal, and it is meant to rekindle the fire that was your birth into existence.
We were there at your birth, and we are quite proud of you. Given this connection that we have, we are eager to reconnect with all of you consciously. We want all of you to feel us, to know us as that part of you that is infinite, that is eternal, and that is powerful.
We are The Founders. We are the keepers of the flame.”
Thank you all for the conversations! I am enjoying them very much. I now feel I need to go back and read Patrick’s books again!
Indeed, isnt it great conversation Folks, i too feel the desire to re read Pats book. 😀😀
Pat, I cant open in Adobe, either. I did get it open in Open Writer.
I’m not too interested in the ancient humanoids.
Why focus on the past or future when there is only now 😊
Another Van Morrison song I can’t resist sharing with all of you.
Another inspired song which brings me Gods Peace and Grace.
I loved that poem Patrick read on one of the videos that reminded me of The Night Before Christmas. I’d love to hear that again.
Here is one for you Linda,
no words just feelings, I like Philosopher's Stone best from Van Morrison.
Thank you, Denis.
Every time I see Patrick post a great picture of a rusty gem of a vehicle I think, Denis likes those too 😊. Be well my reader-friend.
I thought this might put a smile on your face: https://twitter.com/i/status/1183375983145082880
I had to read the comments in the Twitter post to figure out what I was viewing. I “get it” now, but YIKES that’s not for me.
But maybe that’s because I’ve experienced the death of a close family member (which would mean typically a parent, sibling or child).
For those who haven’t, maybe it seems like a funny bit of humor.
It certainly is creative and novel, for sure though. 😊
Yeah, sorry Linda, its different isn't it? Some people might say good natured, even. Because we understand there is no real death, I thought it was amusing. But I think the whole point was this guys practical joking.; and his friends getting to experience it one last time.
I see it has evolution, family and friends able to let go of his 3d presence knowing his personality lives on unconsciously.
Lol, Linda ... a song from the past to celebrate your interest in only focussing in the now 🤗🤗🤗 Excellent...😀😀.
The Divine dichotomy?
I have a question I hadn't thought of asking before.
Since the gold mining took place in Africa, and they took 80% or more of all the gold on the planet, does that mean that Africa once had almost ALL the gold on the planet?
And they didn't mine gold elsewhere?
Says The Committee:
1. Easily accessible gold, near the surface. There remains enough gold deeper below the surface to make it worth approximately the same as aluminium, but for the cost to extract it, when that technology becomes available.
The industrial purposes of gold on Earth - a corrosion proof metal - have now been nearly achieved already with alloys of other metals on Earth. The decorative aspects are learned subjectivity.
When the ability to extract gold deeper than is now known arrives, there will be little desire to extract it.