So, all my trials and tribulations of the last four and a half years, have definitely made me realize that most people are only aware of symptoms and rarely consider the source of the symptoms.
We are quick to condemn or disrespect people without considering their challenges and offering to help.
However, this brings up another question. Can trials and tribulations go on for so long that the sufferer learns LESS than they could have, simply from being overwhelmed? It's takes having some peace and security in life to even begin to reflect on what you have learned. If you are always coping with managing your stress or worrying about survival, it's very hard to reflect as much as you'd like to.
I think there is a limit to the soul learning that challenges bring. Too much of a "good thing" isn't a good thing.
Q1. Can trials and tribulations go on for so long that the sufferer learns LESS than they could have, simply from being overwhelmed?
S1. I think there is a limit to the soul learning that challenges bring. Too much of a "good thing" isn't a good thing. (S = statement)
From the human perspective this is often correct. Once we're done and home, NO, NOT AT ALL. Part of the lesson and experience designed into the process is just this feeling, to experience overload, being overwhelmed. To desire it to end, that it's already too much. This is NOT available to our souls away from incarnation.
Consider people who become paralyzed, quadriplegics, blind, life in prison inmates or amputees. Does permanence of their challenges make anything easier?
It depends. Serious physical limitations are not all created equal. Plus, you must consider how much support the person has.
A blind person with a lot of support will probably find lots of reasons to go on living. A paralyzed or quadriplegic person without support would have a hard time even surviving.
I used to read a blog written by a lady with ALS. Imagine not being able to move your body below the neck, yet feeling everything. Not to mention all the breathing emergencies experienced on a regular basis.
She grew up in a rich family. She had the advantages of a husband and daughter who loved her immensely, and enough money to afford caregivers and access to the best doctors and treatments. She was wickedly funny and still adventurous enough to get her family and caretakers to take her places. She lived about six years after her diagnosis, which is long for an ALS patient.
However, even with all her support, the long march of the disease was so ghastly, that she had plans in place for assisted suicide. She was living in France at the time and it's legal. She was just about to go through with it when a minor family crisis held her back. She ended up dying naturally several months later.
People in prison for life - there's a high suicide rate.
So, permanent limitations can lead to deciding life isn't worth it. Depends on the severity and what the person can handle. I really hate the phrase "The Universe/God doesn't give you more than you can handle." NOT TRUE.
Here's a question. As I see it all of our incarnations are a shared experience because we are all ONE so for example you know how many different channels tap into the many different timelines of the Jesus story and get different stories for that story so no one really knows the exact story if there actually was actual one LOL. Thethe same could be said about my life if different channels were to tap into my life, different people would get different versions of my current life?
Human incarnations are only shared after we pass on. We are all connected BUT as humans we are largely separate, and this feature of incarnation is a great attraction.
No, I didn't know that about many channelers (I don't follow any).
No, there is only one version of a human life. There can be different viewpoints of observation, but a human incarnation has & is but one version, only. This will be seen clearly when the moment comes to review in the entirety.
On the point about viewpoints of Jesus life. I recently watched a clip of Abraham (via Ester Hicks) give a talk about him ( Referred to as Yeshua) that was incredibly powerful, and quite amazing imo.
Yes, there are many many channeled books that people have channeled from the Christ energy and most of them tell differing stories. There is not one book that tells the same story about those Characters so there are many versions.
What does the Committee say about that?
"There are many interpretations" they say.
P.S....there are infinite timelines within the lifetime as Jesus, that is why there are so many “versions” of his life.
PPS.. Also to mention we live in a Holographic Universe
Greeting my friends.
I guess it really is easier to be human with some knowledge of the Big Picture.
My Mum and then Dad died within 4 months of each other about 4 years ago. It is not in my nature to grieve heavily because I am aware what reality is so I was able to be cheerful throughout and even cracked a joke to the funeral director that I should have purchased a 2-for-1 deal!
I shortly after heard from Mum via a medium that she was pleased with my attitude to their deaths. Nothing is to be taken too seriously. Love created never ceases to exist.
When Mum and Dad were ill, I tried to assure them not to worry, everything's cool.
On the other hand I know people who are without knowledge of the Big Picture and they do indeed take things very seriously. Unemployment, bereavement, 1001 things that typically stress us. I find myself able to navigate life a lot easier knowing that everything is illusion. Being in despair is something I have the highest compassion for as it's self-torment.
A funny story just came to mind. My neighbour accidentally cut down my prized apple trees with his fancy chainsaw (long story!). He felt terrible about what he'd done but I laughed out loud and bought him a beer. I thanked the trees for their service and saw an opportunity to redesign the garden.
I'm of the mind that we must approach all life's problems like this. With a large dose of humour and compassion for those who do us wrong.
Alex, how does someone "accidentally" cut down an apple tree?
In August of 2018, a 30 year old female Dallas, Texas police officer, in uniform apparently coming home from work, barged in on a neighbor on another floor of her apartment block, shooting her model citizen male neighbor to death in cold blood. Her explanation: the police officer believed it was her apartment and the resident was a burglar.
After conviction for murder and sentencing last week, the victim's 18 year old younger brother took the witness stand to give a victim impact statement, required for certain serious cases in Texas criminal courts.
He said and did the most touching thing I've seen in a long, long time. He told the murderer he forgave her, that he wished nothing bad for her, that he loved her as he loves everyone and that he wouldn't even send her to prison, if he could do that. He asked the judge if he could give the defendant a hug, the judge said yes, and they embraced and spoke to one another privately for a good minute, the convicted cop sobbing but smiling as she talked to her victim's younger brother.
I hope your chainsaw loving neighbor at least helped pay for the re-design, plus bushel of apples for both of you to share!
@Alex I find it funny with my mother who gets so wound up about things but doesn't know how to settle down. I just think bs to that because if you can learn to get upset you can learn not to get upset about something. Also when it comes to death and stuff I never liked going into a funeral home but not necessarily because someone died, I had a aunt die a few months ago and I haven't been grieving like my mom but that's because of people like Patrick and Erik that teach us that we will be with them again.
We will be with them, because they are still with us now. Getting upset rarely solves anything; it might be OK if it helps lower the pressure or teach a lesson, but you are right, Scott; we can learn to be calm just as we learn to erupt.
@Patrick it's like I've said before to you Patrick I have no desire for conflict and it's funny that I get along with people I don't live with 🤔
I've been at peace with deaths for a long time. Though it would be harder if it was someone I lived with and had an intertwined life with.
When my grandmother was dying in her late 90s, we alternated between talking to her and making sure her pain was treated, and moments of absolute hilarity.
My sister and I discussed what clothes she should be buried in from a selection of her wardrobe dropped off by our mother. Sister felt that the necklines of all the dresses were too high and said they looked uncomfortable. I reminded her that grandma would not be able to feel any discomfort when she was dead! We died laughing about how silly the thought was, and then promptly went shopping for a dress that looked more comfortable anyway. ;)
We also busted out laughing that grandma's slips were all now too large for her since she had become so tiny by then. We joked that she would meet her loved ones in Heaven in her new dress and her slip would fall down.
Strangely, these are happy memories.
That's a nice story.
As I’ve taken up the practice/teaching to see all as Divine and as of God, and I’ve prayed to align my will to the Will of God, which is also my own. I have asked for guidance as to when to speak up within a local powerful governmental body about corruption. In the past, TC has encouraged me to speak up and I want to, but that entails exposing corruption and naming names and bringing up the past and showing others who have been in service to themselves instead of the group as a whole. For the last week or so, I have been holding my tongue as I await guidance.
How do I bring the change I want to see without first revealing info which might hurt another Divine being. Do I just continue to pray or do I take action? Two ideas come to me about this. One is sunlight is the best disinfectant, and the other is turn the other cheek. I feel I’m stuck or am I just in a holding pattern. Is it best that I step back from this issue or “move” in some way?
This reminds me of the large energy company, which imploded in spectacular fashion some 17 or 18 years ago, Enron. Large segments of its business were an accounting fraud, the top managers eventually sent to prison.
As the shenanigans began to unravel and the top down fraud became obvious, employee panic set in; some staff started destroying physical files, deleting e-mail messages and even destroying computers.
As a business tool, e-mail was already very common then, if not universal. but was still in its adolescence; some users had to be reminded of its nature with this joke: what's the difference between true love and e-mail? E-mail is forever.
Every message will have at least 5 copies stored on 1. the sending device 2. server to which it's connected 3. ISP back-up recovery servers for sender & recipient 4. the receiving server and 5. the recipient's specific device.
If you know of ongoing government theft, the evidence can be uncovered if investigators know where to look. Do you the taxpayer enjoy knowing money you pay, confiscated from you as taxes, is lining someone's private pockets? Would your fellow wo/man likewise be happy with that?
In many places, anonymous legal accusations are prohibited BUT not anonymous tips, which are typically encouraged. Assemble what you know; find out which regulator agencies (state or provincial police, inspector general, district attorney, attorney general, federal police [FBI in the USA for example]) have jurisdiction. Send them copies of what you know and have, anonymously. Keep originals, explain to them your reasons for wanting anonymity, such as fear of reprisal, if you prefer that. You might wish to have an experienced criminal defense attorney do this for you, who might be happy to do it pro-bono (free of charge) to make a name for her/himself.
You are not hurting another divine being; you are protecting the interests of a far larger majority. The corrupt hurt themselves as much as their victims.
Two thoughts come to mind. "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." And "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmund Burke). Ultimately, though, isn't it your decision to make?
Thank you for your responses. My fight is already in the court system which has also not followed the rule of law. No discovery has been allowed. Legal maneuvers unheard of have been implored to silence us (my husband is intervenor-of-right in a lawsuit brought by the state against Constitutionally protected property rights) that don’t comport with rule of law or the real legal issues at hand. This case is already in the final phase and our appeal is said to be not yet ripe.
The court case is ongoing and I’ve tried to alert my neighbors to how we are being played but I’m mocked and told to stop focusing on negative things and my mental health questioned by the ones involved who hold the local power. I’m paying - via city taxes and state taxes including property taxes and paying the HOA dues - which means I’m funding all those fighting against me and the courts have allowed it. There isn’t any lawyer in the Bar (a private club) that is willing to take on all the political forces that could end a career to do pro bono work unfortunately and there isn’t any money in it to do so otherwise.
I have considered writing to the IRS about the fraud my HOA is currently engaged in and perhaps that’s all I should do. Thank you for your responses. The corruption, cronyism and socialist values have become evident in our legal and political systems, right down to neighborhood communities. I hope there are some individuals in positions of power who will assist in my fight against this corruption but the corruption is state wide obviously.
It takes more than one or two voices to speak out. It takes someone in a position to bring change to assist those striving for it.
Dear Patrick & All,
The 3 part channelings (& conversations) are helping me so much, opened me up to healing anxieties, closeted griefs, sadness, despair on things i feared to share. I like the feelings of more wonder & potentials i’m deriving from (even) the simple act of reading, let alone the understandings. Some of you are expressing my concerns so clearly, it’s helping me, & responses are clear, bright & .... right. Wish you all wellness.
Dear TC, wish you all well too.
I’m bit shy to ask again, please can you help with Q: is it our physical bodies that is hybrid & originate from ET genetic construction for the physical work they had wanted from us? I passed on my copies of The Alien Handbook after many reads - & my Q is really asking confirmation of my understanding of that part, as after many reads I still felt I didn’t quite know if that is what is being given ( soul inhabits human body so body is the hybrid part?). It’s a question from the mind as for me, the greater part is of the knowing of what every soul possesses, but grateful for a reply. Thank you. Truly Grateful for your interest to assist us.
@hl hi hl yes your correct that our bodies were created by et for manual labor. I guess our creators were too lazy to want to try the work themselves. I believe that's called being lazy 🤔
Not lazy at all.
The duration of Earth's daylight and darkness cycle would have been nearly impossible for the visitors to manage if they remained on the surface for any length of time. Humans would not be able to survive very long either, if exposed to 6 hours of daylight followed by six of darkness, maybe changing to 3 light 9 dark. On Earth we have places where it remains illuminated all day BUT it's gradual, it changes and almost everything else remains the same (see below). We can replicate survivable temperatures and wear properly insulated clothing but not all the time. Northern Canada, Russia and Alaska are sparsely populated for good reasons.
The combined effects of temperature, gravity, humidity, bacteria, bugs, pollen, dust, sunlight intensity and components (e.g. UV light) and atmospheric gas composition and atmospheric pressure would also make it almost impossible for the visitors to remain on the surface very long and accomplish much, if any work.
I have experienced the abrupt effects of being at more than 13,000 feet altitude (4,000 meters) and also lived for years at 2,600 meters (8,600 feet). The earth surface environment is as much a challenge for visitors and other planets would be for us. It's one principal, significant reason we don't see alien ETs very much.
How many ditches were Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin going to realistically dig on the surface of the moon in those suits they HAD to have?
@Patrick I'm sure they had limitations, but since they could create a complex and sophisticated lifeform that we would eventually occupy I'm just surprised they couldn't do it themselves. Granted they might have had limited success on there own because of there bodies. As far as Armstrong and Aldrin if it wasn't for the suits they would have died but I'm sure if the moon were more earthlike they could have dug some mighty fine ditches with just a good shovel or pickaxe.
Hybrid = blend or mixture.
Human DNA, both the original version and subsequent changes or "upgrades", have always been a blend of some DNA found on Earth already, plus parts, bits and bytes taken from or copied from Alien ETs. Humans are a hybrid alien species to Earth; we did not develop or evolve here; we were created then "planted".
Physical beings who could survive and thrive in the Earth surface environment required traits and characteristics from animals already able to do that.
Our souls are not a part of the physical.
Thank you Scott2 📚, got there in the end 🔑, phew!
May I state that I don’t feel they created me (my soul) & if I was one of those early humans, I have faith I chose to inhabit that human body for the experience. And in this understanding of my self, I recall reading & agreeing now on a personal level that indeed us who incarnate(d) in that dimension show that we are not the weaker but indeed the loving souls gaining experience & strong/adventurous/ nuts (LOL) to want to gain that experience (metaphorically ‘The meek inherits the world’) .Wouldn’t this be spiritually true of every soul incarnated in human body under that regime? 🤓
Yes, every soul incarnates voluntarily. There are NO exceptions.
Just wondering , whilst on this subject, if it would be possible for you to interview one of the souls that incarnated into the bodies of the hybrids back then and share with us what that incarnation was like for them, would be really interesting imo. 😀
As compared to the current hybrids, i.e. all of us?
List your questions, folks over the next few days.
In light of the 3 part channeling ‘Old Souls, Past & Future Lives’ I looked up meaning & synonym of ‘ancestor’. My thoughts .. human construct upon which we place meaning & upon which I am my own ancestor & possibly yours (& you mine).
We are ancestors of plants, animals & more. Thus life has just grown bigger in aspect without increase in actual numbers of souls.The punchline... Is this life growth an explanation of spiritual aspect ‘ you can do /be/have/create anything - perhaps caveat that could/should be added in is ‘in this timeline or other timelines/dimensions’ ?
Patrick’s clear channeling ability & TC’s guidances can lead to (greater) freedom of thought & being.
Loving the discussions here. There's so much to learn. Thanks everyone :-)
@Santanu you also add interesting questions to ask and yeah it's always fun to come here and see what people are talking about. I must admit I enjoy friendly discussion so much more than the name calling and other childish bs you see on other sites.
Makes me wonder what the hell I'm doing wrong.
@Patrick you don't need to wonder Patrick you just need to keep on doing things wrong and you'll be fine. 😏
Something I've wondered about . . . if one incarnates into an advanced ET civilization that has solved most of the problems found on Earth, is that life easier?
A nearly impossible comparison.
1. Is it easier for a bird to drink coffee or tea?
3. Do dogs prefer brussels or bean sprouts?
3. Do cats really bark on Planet X?
The definitions of easy or difficult vary so widely...
Says The Committee: "Easy for humans is almost completely a function of habit, expectation and preference."
Re: my two earlier comments - Update to my situation
The assistance I was waiting for arrived via letter last night. It was the first hint to me that the tide has changed in favor of the rule of law. And this morning part of the deep corruption I’ve been fighting was exposed and indicted. I just wanted to report back that the efforts made to bring corruption out to be “healed” has begun.
It is better to speak out. Thank you for the encouragement. I know what I’m up against and how to deal with it. Like Enron (described by Patrick) my husband will now send out some “litigation holds” with hope they all with obey. No matter what I have re-newer hope.
Thank you, I am truly a grateful reader.
Hi Grateful Reader, Thanks for update, glad you have renewed hope. Whatever happens, please, keep yourself well during & after, work thru triggers keeping yourself well.May your intentions harvest end to the corruption you perceive. Kind regards.
Q 1. If the soul knew the incarnation was merely to occupy a hybrid body that was basically only created to collect gold for someone else's benefit. ( aka Slave.) What was the appeal in doing it.?
Q2. What was the expected average life span for one of these hybrids ?
Q3. Did they have the option to have children, or was it all Toil, Toil, Toil?
Good questions, Steve, and somehow it all sounds so familiar 😉 We seem to have come far... Being ironic, of course, no offense intended!
Actually, I do have some serious questions to add to this list, now that I have just watched the news (and we seem to have yet another war/conflict in Europe):
Q1: Were these first hybrids created for gold-digging aggressive/violent in any way?
Q2: If they were, did our ET cousins who created them demonstrate aggressive/violent behaviour themselves?
Q3: If these first hybrids were not aggressive, when was the "biblical" apple of the creation (or as we would say in German "der Sündenfall") introduced into human history, and was that intentional or just an "unfortunate" by-product nobody had given any thought about?
Q4: Was that trait in humans not "corrected" because no more "messing about" with human DNA was allowed at that stage of our evolution, or was it left that way intentionally to make the human adventure more "intense" (for lack of a better word) for souls choosing to incarnate on planet Earth?
Q5: If our ET cousins were not aggressive, why would they tolerate such behaviour among the hybrids they had created?
Q6: If our ET cousins were aggressive, why would they be allowed to space-travel? It is my understanding that the secrets of space-travelling would only be revealed to peaceful communities, which is one of the reasons us humans are not quite there yet (and if we go on like this, we won't be for quite a while still...)
Thank you, Patrick and TC, in advance for your trouble! Take care!
Jude, if I may chime in .... Be Aware that News Reporters are in the business of " Overdramatisation" of most things. The situation in Turkey is just another skirmish outbreak, (they have been going on for centuries in Europe / Middle East.)😀
1. Gold extraction would be a better description and no, not in the least.
2. Not in the least, no.
3. The creation of humanoids occurred first, the insertion of the story of Adam & Eve into the Bible happened when the book was written many tens of thousands of years later.
There is no "by-product" aspect to the process or story.
Referring to the first humanoids as hybrid is biologically correct, but not the best word. It suggests a combination of traits humans are accustomed to seeing when, for example, a black African human has children with white Chinese person, or dog breed A has puppies with breed B. This is NOT what happened...the DNA was manipulated at the atomic level; this means the chemicals were changed, mixing things humans OF TODAY cannot do and would barely understand if the process were explained and demonstrated. The Atlantis civilization reached the ability to create & cross DNA to create centaurs, unicorns, mermaids and worse.
All humans today are also genetic hybrids.
4. None of the above; to what trait do you refer, violence? This is not DNA controlled or influenced; human violence is entirely taught & learned and always has been.
5. Humanoids and humans after them - the homo sapiens upgrade of about 3 centuries later - were not violent until well after the alien ET creators were gone. All human behavior is accepted by our ET cousins - the prime directive, the policy to not interfere - but they have and will neutralize human threats to them, without harming us.
6. You are correct, interstellar space travel capable beings are not violent. Humans enjoy violence, it's why we teach & learn it. How many popular movies, books or video games of the last half century (and longer before the games) do NOT contain serious violence of one type or another? A small, sad minority.
WHAT WAR IN EUROPE? I haven't heard about that!! (My son is in the US Armed Forces, so I watch this topic closely...)
Dear Patrick, I am sorry if I used the term WAR incorrectly - I did not quite know what to call it properly, therefore I put "war/conflict". I know that your son is with the US Army, and I did not mean to worry you in any way.
I was referring to the forever ongoing conflict between Turkey and the Kurdish militia group YPG, as I understand it (sorry, I am no good with politics), that has come to a new outburst that has been going on for five days now. Apparently the Turkish government is trying to establish a "safety zone" at the border between Turkey and Syria where the YPG are, and Turkey have therefore started to attack the north of Syria. In the news, they call it "Militäroffensive" which could be translated by military offensive, I think? Maybe this is a more correct term to use.
The good news for you, Patrick: The US Army has already withdrawn from this area (and here in Europe, the press tells us that this is why Turkey has now started the new attacks...). Swiss news showed an extract from what I believe was a press conference that Donald Trump gave on the subject, mainly saying that there has been conflict in that area for as long as mankind can remember and that it will never stop, and that it was about time that the US Armed Forces got out of there. Anyway, all our European leaders are pleading with Turkey to stop "the offensive" immediately, as there are already 100'000 people on the road in our direction with what they can carry under their arms, and everybody fears there is more to come if this does not stop.
Thank you and TC for the explanations! So violence is not a DNA-based trait but entirely taught/learned (and NOT by our ET cousins), so my thinking is that this goes back to our free will... Therefore nobody else to blame but ourselves, so very sad. And to think that brave young men like your son are sent off all around the globe to keep it all more or less under control is just heartbreaking. God bless them all!
@ Jude: Turkey invading Syria isn't European, but I certainly knew about that. My son was in Syria 2 years ago. His military status is even more worrisome than the US Army because he's not a soldier, he's a Marine, (Dept of the Navy) the the tip of the spear, the first ones in.
Of course, you are perfectly right, Patrick, it is a Middle East conflict. Most of Turkey is Middle East, and Syria most definitely is... (in my former job, Turkey belonged to the Eastern Europe region which, of course, is totally irrelevant, but in my mind, it still is that - it is close enough to Europe anyway to make me think...).
Two years ago in Syria at the front of the fire, that must have been a nightmare for you and your wife and his family, I cannot imagine! May he and his comrades always be safe on all their missions. My prayers go out for them!
I had a lovely conversation recently through my fav trance-channel Daniel Scranton and spoke to the Collective group called "The Founders" (who sometimes show up to humans as Mantis beings) I spent time in their collective when I first individuated my Consciounsess to learn how to be a individuated Consciousness so I have carried their energy down dimensionally. They also call themselves "Keepers of the Flame" I also am currently bringing to Earth the energy of the Lyrans as I am very connected to Animals, Cats at this time, but also to Dolphins, Whales and I will study the energy of Dogs and what affect they have on humans. Also I found out what happened to my Maine Coon Cat Polly that went missing nearly 4 years ago now!!
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Answers contained therein.
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I understand that it all is happening at the same time but since this is so what then do seers see in someone when they deem them an old soul. Thank you