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Disinformation 2 - Comments

10/4/2018

17 Comments

 
The tone of comments goes off in an important direction - the issue of an overbearing, bloated thus oppressive government - but those issues are not disinformation.
 
Anybody who wishes to investigate the size and scope of governments federal, state, county (and even local) can do it, in the USA. Many citizens do not care enough to look. For readers outside the USA, we are the most highly taxed nation in the world. The grand total of all taxes imposed on American citizens added up as a % of annual GDP, is the highest in the world. We had a protest movement which gained steam after President Obama took office, called the TEA Party. Taxed Enough Already and it made reference through its name to an important violent protest carried out in Boston in response to higher taxes imposed on tea by the British Crown. The protesters back then boarded a berthed ship and dumped the tea into the bay (but no cream, sugar or lemon were thrown overboard). The event provoked a vigorous response from King George, including firearms confiscation by British troops, in blatant violation of British law in effect at the time. History explains how things worked out.
 
The response in 2009 to this protest group, the TEA Party - the activities of which involved many things, such as a march of more than a million people in the USA's capital city - was a campaign of dis- and misinformation to make any oppressor proud.
 
Some other comments here point to corruption, not misinformation. Corruption is very bad, but operates as a subset of the greater trend, which is: control of the citizenry, not service to and for them, as temporarily elected employees of The People. The real attempts to control the populace come across as bonafide, legitimate and reasonable sounding. They are anything but that, and the citizenry would only find out after it's too late, as has happened many times throughout history. Attempts to curtail press freedom are constant in the USA, but these are simplistic corruption. True efforts to stop debate are subtle and depend on the obvious, sure-to-backfire things that, for example college students do. The true and insidious efforts, the ones which have the most effect, involve a steady flow or dis- and misinformation, much of it swallowed like water.  
 
I repeat below reader Linda' comments and question, with responses from The Committee and [my own in brackets].
 
Q1.         So what can be done or better yet what can I do? As I said in another post my husband is sticking his neck out defending our land in a lawsuit against the state. My state was determined to be the most corrupt state according to the experts. Daunting. We are fighting the good fight but there is a big system in all things public. 

On the one hand it’s too risky to call anyone out by name but saying and doing nothing just keeps it going. Seems like a loss of power is in order all around literally and figuratively. 
C:          Do the majority of your fellow citizens agree? Disagree? How many are indifferent to the issues you raise? There is no insufficiency of information, to the contrary there is an overload of information. The indifferent are often former observers who cannot be bothered by the confusing message. Not adding to the confusion by not joining the event, will bring out the side most willing to dominate. The disinformers will be rather quickly unmasked.

Q2.        How else to bring down the beast? 
C:          Examine who created the beast in the first place, and ask yourselves why the beast has its contract renewed constantly. Consider not renewing the contract by not participating in elections.

Q3.        Any advice?
C:          Acknowledge that some citizens do not care, and others care very differently from you. What can be done to raise awareness? Do not feed a conclusion or point-of-view that you prefer, to others who disagree. They will simply see your position as a starting point from which to back up and at least maintain or ideally, increase the gap. This ever widening space between the two ideas or positions is perceived as ideal by some debaters, because it appears to them as victory. They do not wish to appeal to an observing jury, who will listen to both sides of an issue and reach a conclusion after weighing and comparing the arguments. The current debates as they relate to central authorities, appeal to many as contests and spectacles, and being the most flamboyant and partisan is the objective. If you sense this coming, your participation in the event reinforces the divide otherwise preferred closed.  
 
You're at an advantage Patrick having such clarity about events all your life. I understand you can’t be the go to guy for truth, but helpful hints would go along way:)
 
[ I have no more personal advantage than anybody else, and I hope to spread The Committee's and other beings' messages for the betterment of everybody who will read them. I have no more clarity about the events in my life than the typical Texas Jane or Joe.
 
I'm happy to be the "go-to" guy, if the information isn't criminal in nature (it'll draw a blank) or if I have the time to tackle it.]
17 Comments
Linda
10/4/2018 11:59:20

Thank you for your response
We have asked the court for a jury trial but the judge has to allow it. I take it from TCs response that staying the course and keep pushing for jury trial and do not try to convince anyone outside of the courtroom is the way to go?
The other sides in our lawsuit are already acting flamboyant so I guess we are making progress if I understand correctly.

In a prior post TC mentioned a traffic stop situation / abduction. I do worry about relatiation. Should we?

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Patrick
10/4/2018 12:16:05

The judge has to allow it? WHAAAAAAT?!? Has s/he ever heard of the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights, specifically Article 7? How about the Arizona Constitution, Article 2 Section 23?

Yes, says The Committee, stick to your principles to the extent of your ability. The flamboyant act of your counterparty adversary is only a tactic.

No, you do not need to worry about retaliation for your case.

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Linda
10/4/2018 13:50:58

The court believes this is merely an administrative action. Things are badly outta whack here.
Thank you for responding. I feel better:)

Mike
10/4/2018 16:02:12

Don't forget you can read and interact on all these articles over on the Amendment Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheRealAmendmentGroup/

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Steve
11/4/2018 02:39:08

Pat, did a UFO photobomb you in this photo, and judging by shodows cast, I'm calling it that photo was taken between 130 and ,2.10 pm on a Saturday !!!😀😀

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Tim
11/4/2018 08:44:34

@ Steve

Not so fast.

It's all relative & the timing based on the shadows cast depend on which half of the planet the photo was taken on (i.e. the top half or the bottom half).

While the caption on the photo says the shot was taken by the "Gulf of Mexico", it is also tied to a post about "Disinformation", so the shot could be taken by the "Gulf that divides us all".

The "Polarization" that happens at the top half and the bottom half of the planet is an indication of how "shadowy" information can be "bent" to suit the suitor of the imagery to be presented in a certain light.

Or maybe not.

Hope all is well with y'all on the bottom half of the planet.

Hmmm - after typing this, I'm wondering which half is the positive one and which half is the negative one.

Looking forward to a day when the "Gulf that divides us all", is behind us all.

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Patrick
11/4/2018 11:00:24

Friday, the 2nd of October at 5:29 PM local time, approximate location coordinates 29 degrees 11 mins 35 seconds North latitude, 94 degrees, 57 minutes 12 seconds West Longitude.

Where is the ET photo bomb effect? Oh that's right...standing right in front of us, taking the picture! (No, it was the mother-in-law).

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Mike
11/4/2018 07:30:41

I see more sabre rattling with WW3 threats escalating again between the US and Russia. Just wish our alien ET friends would appear and take the focus away from our ego's and help us realise our place in the Universe a bit more.

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Patrick
11/4/2018 11:03:10

In other words, that alien ETs should interfere and possibly distort human decisions?

The USA and Russia are not going to square off anytime sooner or later. It didn't happen during the Cold War and will not happen now.

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Linda
11/4/2018 11:32:38

I just saw this video. Who is behind this?

https://youtu.be/gc9UnnGdQJ4

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Patrick
11/4/2018 14:12:50

Res ipsa loquitor
It speaks for itself, doesn’t it?

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Linda
11/4/2018 15:50:07

1). So is our Nikki H just calling the big group’s bluff to show their ineffectiveness, or something else?

“Benefit without responsibility is not”.

2) Somehow we all are responsible but if we aren’t told what is really going on will we still derive benefit?

Maybe I’m an outlier and everyone gets it and that fine.
Maybe I’ve had too much fluoride in my water or something.
Maybe I should have stopped watching the news long ago as suggested. I’m glad the atrocities about gas and deaths are fake.

3). Can TC provide a poem about what is really going on? (Take some literary license and impart something I can stand under? (Insert smiley face here).

4). Will all be revealed while I’m still incarnated?

BTW I’m still very grateful and thankful for this day, our daily 🍞

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Patrick
11/4/2018 17:36:23

Great questions for The Committee, since I am in the dark almost completely regarding the background. They respond:

1. [Sidebar: The question refers to the USA's Ambassador to the United Nations, the former governor of the State of South Carolina] No, there is no bluff being called to a big group. It can be seen that a bluff is being called, however it is not to a big group as it might seem to be. Time will demonstrate the effectiveness of this group, the United Nations, or otherwise, as it has repeatedly been observed over the past several years; two decades we suggest.

2. Yes. You are far from an outlier, no fluoride was abused in the drafting of your question or our reply and, observing news does not mean you must believe or disbelieve it. Trust your instinctual reactions when observing. The atrocities are not all false, although there is this component. Exaggeration is common. Inflating true events to great untruths and effect is a common practice.

3.
Once upon a time
The world revolved around
Humans came to rhyme
A poem of what is found

All is not what's shown
But most is true indeed
Your thoughts you always own
Grows truth from every seed

Listen think then listen
About what you prefer
Look into the kitchen
Of news confection per

The truth is only mixed
Never disappeared
If it seems a bag of tricks
The culprits much should fear.

4. Much will revealed and it can be now. What are your doubts? Please set them forth and answers shall we lay out.

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Linda
11/4/2018 18:02:14

1)Are there atrocities happening in Syria to which the US will justifiably respond with military force?

2)Is Russia friend or foe to US/trump?

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Patrick
11/4/2018 21:24:44

Says The Committee:
1. Yes
2. Both, depending on circumstances. When Russia's interests are compromised, curtailed or limited by USA actions, they take on an adversarial position. This is not the foundation of the relationship. The USA and Russia are still able to cooperate where common interest benefits both sides.

No, Russia did nothing to help the president of the USA get elected, or put the losing candidate into second place. What Russia did was make attempts to gain advantage, insight, entry, favor and influence with both candidates for president of the USA. The ongoing investigation will eventually lead to this summary and conclusion.

The president of the USA is keenly aware of adversarial efforts to gain entry and influence into his organization and with him personally, both now and for several decades, and has effectively listened without compromising himself, US laws, principles or the USA's advantage.

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Laura
12/4/2018 20:41:05

How much longer will we have to hear about the Russia issue? They are wasting tax dollars on nothing.

Linda
11/4/2018 21:34:22

Thank you You guys are the best go-to-guys!

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